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Imagine your car playing you an ad based on your destination, vehicle information—and listening to your conversations.

Ford has patented a system that, per the filing, would use several different sources of information to customize ad content to play in your car. One such information stream that this hypothetical system would use to determine what sort of ads to serve could be could be the voice commands you’ve given to the car. It could also identify your voice and recognize you and your ad preferences, and those of your passengers. Finally, it could listen to your conversations and determine if it’s better to serve you a visual ad while you’re talking, or an audio ad when there’s a lull in the conversation.

If the system described in the patent knew that you were headed to the mall on the freeway based on destination information from the nav system and vehicle speed, it could consider how many ads to serve in the time you’ll be in the car, and whether to serve them on a screen or based through the audio system. If you respond more positively to audio ads, it might serve you more of those—how does every five minutes sound?

But what if the weather’s bad, traffic is heavy, and you’re chatting away with your passenger? Ford describes the system using the external sensors to perceive traffic levels and weather, and the internal microphone to understand conversational cadence, to “regulate the number (and relevance) of ads shown” to the occupants. Using the GPS, if it knows you’ve parked near a store, it might serve you ads relevant to that retail location. Got passengers? Maybe you get an audio ad, and they get a visual one.

Given how consumers feel about advertising and in-car privacy, it is difficult to imagine an implementation of this system that wouldn’t generate blowback. But again, the patent isn’t describing some imminent implementation; it just protects Ford’s IP that describes a possible system. That said, with the encroachment of subscription-based features, perhaps it’s only a matter of time before you’re accepting a $20/month discount to let your new Ford play you ads on your commute.

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[–] cirkuitbreaker@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

What if this is the best timeline?

I can't imagine there is any reality out there where capitalism doesn't exist.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually this is a good thing. They've gone and got a patent for it, so now I know not to buy ford cars, and no one else can spy on me without breaking copyright, because that's the part that would be illegal.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Unless they make a deal behind closed doors

[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Destination: Las Vegas

Ford car: "Visit Hard-on Henry's for hookers and blow"

[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 8 points 6 days ago

Pi-hole coming to cars now

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago

So now you have to disconnect and reinstall speakers and radio systems in new cars, got it

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I already never wanted a Ford, now I want one even less.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I had discarded the idea of buying anything Ford a long time ago... this just tells me I had been right all along and there is zero reason to reconsider

Side note: is it me or the worst enshitification news always seem to come from Ford (out of the American car manufacturers)?

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Honestly good. Let no one else use that technology. Then all i have to do is not buy a ford.

That said, if you plug your phone into your car, this tech is already in place lol.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is not how patents work. At all.

For one, patent owners are generally more than happy to license their technology to integrators, and even competitors, if there is money to be made.

More importantly, patents cannot be used to get exclusivity on products. Rather, patents can only protect novel approaches to how a product is made or served.

The patent system is designed to protect R&D costs exclusively, not some get out of jail card for anti trust. Of course, the patent office isn't perfect, the system does get abused in anti-competitive ways. But in the end, it's rare that that results in less consumer choice, because of licensing deals.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me: I'll just need a screwdriver and a hammer to chisel that shit off the motherboard from the radio 📻.....

Ford: actually it's an integral part of the fuel pump, the fuel injection timing system, the breaking system and the battery BMS system...and the head light controller...it's in all vital systems!

Me: check out my all new Honda!

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe there's a way to dumb down the technology with 1950s bypasses. Just skip the computer entirely.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"How to lobotomize your car" could become a whole new genre on youtube.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Do they not realize this will hurt their Brand?

Short term ad profits aren't worth losing customers.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They very much are for a lot of people. Lines goes up, you can give yourself a nice bonus payout and if things come crashing down you leave. With your golden parachute of course.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

In general, digital privacy invasions have been very successful because of attrition.

Most people don't care, those that do hold out, but then every competitor does the same and you no longer have any real alternatives. Eventually, the hold outs need to replace [car in this case] and the sting of the objectiknable change has faded, and they just move on.

Rinse and repeat.

We lost the fight for meaningful net neutrality, basic digital privacy rights, broadband limits, etc.

They'll win this one too. Eventually. Your phones and IoT with microphones are already doing it.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess they might lose customers, but the ad revenue will offset it. Which could be a win for them. Less cars to produce for the same amount of money. If they survive everybody else will probably just follow suit. Like the car functionality subscriptions.

I'm just sad we reached this point.

Ban targeted advertising. Ban data gathering. You won't even have to deal with the f***ing cookie banners anymore.

If they survive

And if they show the slightest sign that they might not survive then the US Gov will bail them out.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This means my car will be cheaper, right?

...right?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

"Ahahahaha! You silly bitch..."

--Giant corporations

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Give me a free car and I'll test it out with this "service". I'm not buying a car that advertises to me.

[–] Swampman@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lets hope this is one of those patents that they never do anything with while simultaneously denying everyone else the opportunity to do it.

Like that 2009 Sony patent that makes you get up from your seat and yell out the name of the brand to end an ad.

[–] chwilson@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

drink a verification can to continue

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

take your required 2 factor authentication shit

[–] viralJ@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

2009? It will expire in 5 years and we'll be inundated with devices that require you to get up from your seat and yell out the name of the brand to end an ad ☹️

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ikea are worried as then they will have to come down firm on a pronunciation.

It is either eye key eh, or i key ah, but even they don't seem to know.

[–] MrAlternateTape@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hope my car holds out for a long time, because fuck ads in my car. I don't want my car to listen to anything but the controls I use to drive.

Is there really anybody who thinks they would like that?

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there really anybody who thinks they would like that?

Auto companies don't care what people like, only what level of BS people would put up with before going to a different brand.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Companies don't care what people like, only what level of BS people would put up with before going to a different brand.

Ftfy

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Of all the amazing futures that technology could bring us, this is the black hell we get stuck with.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NEW feature: As you drive down the road, Ford cars will automatically take over and drive you to the nearest sponsor location. Hungry? It will take over and swerve into the nearest KFC drive-thru. Next stop, CVS pharmacy, then Office Depot.

Disclaimer: Disabling AutoAd feature requires monthly subscription.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

"But honey, the car took me to the strip club, it isn't my fault"

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was an article saying that ppl don't buy enough EVs, but with all the shit they put in it, the problem is beyond the type of engine...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

People don't buy EVs because they are way too expensive. BS spy devices and features hidden behind paywalls can be put in anything.

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm already sick of ads at gas station pumps, and will just sit in my car in order to avoid them.

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[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what if i screamed 'fuck off and die' at it whenever an ad plays

[–] LodeMike 12 points 1 week ago

It would recognize that you don't respomd well to ads and play more annoying ones as a result.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Would I buy that car? Would not drive, even if given to me for free. Hell Naw.

https://youtu.be/8QxIIz1yEsA?si=CbTlD86trZ7wOK9W&t=220

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

They would have to pay me to ride around in that. Cash ass or grass Ford

[–] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Will they turn it off when you test drive? I bet there will be some nefarious test drive mode that doesn't show how fucked the car's systems are.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I hate this timeline.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

No. 1 upgrade for future Ford cars: A switch to cut off the microphone.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet another reason not to buy a Ford.

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[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Finally I can add to the list:

  • Fix Or Repair Daily
  • Found On Road Dead

and now,

  • Frequently Off Recording Device
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