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[–] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

I dig the message, but I don't think that "race/gender/LGBT" topics are unimportant or not worth discussing, obviously. As an engineer I often feel like the work I do is not materially benefitting real people - usually it feels like we are playing with some rich folks Monopoly money trying to implement some magic feature or create some magic product before one of the other teams of people on the other side of the country does the same. It's demoralizing. Having an opportunity to improve the technology related to production of the means of sustenance is the primary goal, but it's really quite rare under imperialism, which is consistently a self-contradicting system. However, the liberatory effects of a modern economy include freeing us from those traditional vestiges of social expectation related to our assigned genders, and as Marxists we should continue to study this as an emergent social phenomenon and not through some close minded lens. Race too has an important and distinct dimension under imperialism which any modern Marxist should be able to see, although maybe from the perspective of a young Chinese person that is not so easy to see? Nevertheless, social and technological progress = good

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is obviously not just rebranded colonialism.

[–] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I always think it's funny that people call this colonialism. China is building schools, hospitals, improving the material conditions of countries.

This is not colonialism. As much as Amerikkka wants all of its citizens to think every country does it. They don't.

This is the same thing with China giving large amounts of money to Africa. Liberals called it "debt traps" then China ended up just forgiving the loans.

China has had an overwhelmingly larger positive effect on the world than Amerikkk has ever had.

Western imperialism is slowly dying and I am glad to see it

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Western imperialism is slowly dying and I am glad to see it

Indeed xi-lib-tears

China is doing so much good in the world. It gives me hope that humanity will survive and communism will win

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I want to believe that, whether intentionally or unintentionally, they're forging the material conditions for revolution to be successful. Even if they don't go full commie in a few decades (as they should in my opinion, shifting progressively from market socialism to a democratically centrally computationally planned economy with social ownership of the means of production), the existence of a multipolar world with china on one side is already incredibly more beneficial than US hegemony.

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Liberals called it "debt traps" then China ended up just forgiving the loans.

Projection at it's finest, I'm looking at you IMF

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Oh I agree. Not fully though, there are definitely some negative side effects, this isn't paradise, such things don't exist in this world. But netto it's a good thing.

If the west wanted Africa for themselves, they should've done something about that. China is doing something about it. Good for China and good for Africa.

The funniest thing is all these "blocked by an instance filter for hexbear.net" responses. They're like clockwork. XD

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Literally proud of the echo chamber

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Not that you can see this reply, but this was literally crossposted to our news comm, soup for brains.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

The funniest thing is all these "blocked by an instance filter for hexbear.net" responses. They're like clockwork. XD

michael-laugh its posted in our news comm

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not fully though, there are definitely some negative side effects, this isn't paradise, such things don't exist in this world.

All the negative side effects of having hospitals, schools, roads, and other infastructure - its straight out of Heart of Darkness - "the horror, the horror."

I know they can't see this so, just between us - i hate how libs are like well "its not paradise, such things don't exist in this world." So because communist can't do things perfectly (which we don't claim to) then what we do is probably worse than what the liberals do. Or maybe they mean something like "you naive socialist think its perfect - but perfect doesn't exist kiddo" bet Marx failed to consider that. smuglord either way its huge very-intelligent energy. Libs think they're are the only ones to ever think before

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

The west is desperate to paint it that way, but what justification is there for calling this colonialism? "Debt-trap diplomacy" was the line before, but that didn't hold up to scrutiny, especially when China outright forgave several African countries' debts.

So what's the line now?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Yeah its strange how the West always tries to brand this colonialism since it obviously isnt. You would have to be a dumbass propaganda brained piece of shit to believe this is colonialism- especially while the US still practices the modern equivalent to this day.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

yeah the neat thing is that developing the countries the US empire depends on exploitating directly undermines neocolonialism.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Kinda weird for a colonizer to forgive so many loans they make to the colonized but I guess that 500d Mahjong or something.

[–] refolde@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Of course it's not, glad you agree.