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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)

TL;DR

  • YouTube is increasing subscription prices outside the US, affecting both individual and family plans.

  • The price hike differs per region, with some seeing changes between 30% to 50%.

  • If you're impacted, it makes YouTube Premium more expensive than Spotify Premium and Apple Music.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you’re impacted, it makes YouTube Premium more expensive than Spotify Premium and Apple Music.

I find this particular comparison interesting to bring up. A Youtube Premium subscription also includes a Youtube Music sub (at least in the US, not sure about everywhere else). Which theoretically makes those subscriptions unnecessary as well (ignoring differences in catalog, device availability, etc. of course).

[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah but YouTube music is utter trash and we don't use it anyways. We're just gonna cancel the subscription tbh with you, paying $25 a month was already not worth it so we're just gonna jump ship now contrary to how we dealt with Netflix and their incremental increases. Getting tired of service providers overcharging everyone and constantly raising prices, not because they added more value but because you got used to paying for it so you'll probably keep paying.

It's time for a new YouTube, y'all.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

agree. it's got probably the best content range, but the most God awful UI of all the streaming services I've tried

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Peertube. It definitely needs more content, but as far as I can tell, it is one of the few viable alternatives. Primarily because one single server does not have to stream the video to every client because every client who watches the video also by default I think acts as a seeder to new people watching the video

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[–] kerf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It's more than 50%. In Sweden it goes from 179 SEK to 279 SEK for family - that's almost 56% which is an insane price hike. But hey I'm glad it helps YouTube "improve the service". I would be out if I didn't want my family to be able to watch without ads on several non Android devices and a smart TV..

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 50 points 1 month ago (18 children)

This is ridiculous.

  • their algorithms are crap and keep ramming right-wing bullshit down my throat
  • they keep trying to get me to play YouTube games
  • they list YouTube Shorts multiple times in the Home Screen and most of the time it is just over-sexualised jailbait.
  • using anonymous Google to find a video on YouTube is more effective than using YouTube search

I am seriously thinking of getting an Apple Vision Pro just so I can use Juno and bypass all the bullshit.

Time I planned an exit strategy.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna be honest dude. The "shorts is just over-sexualised jailbait" is a you issue, and more of a self report on the shit you watch, or you being hyperbolic. I often watch shorts and have not once ever seen anything remotely as you describe.

You get served kid videos because you watch them, which is sick of you. It's wild you'd admit that when common knowledge is algos show you content you seem to like.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jailbait is probably the wrong word, but every single short has a scantily clad young lady. It isn’t the Algorithm because all I watch are Machining Videos, DIY and Restoration Videos and the occasional Science and Natural History video.

The most risqué channel subscribe to is VanWives.

Speaking of which, the Algorithm never serves anything that I subscribe to. I would better off going straight to my Subscriptions page.

I will maintain my observation that the Algorithm is shit.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never see scantily clad young ladies in my shorts.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe ThE aLgOrThMs insistence to put scantily clad women in everyone’s Shorts is just a really bad attempt at a bad Dad Joke.

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get allot of that, possibly because I have History turned off and refuse to turn it back on.

  • I vastly avoid Right Wing content, and most of what I do encounter is like old school Republican, reeeally old school Republican. They are as pissed at the Right Wing's take over by the Alt-Right(and worse)
  • YouTube has games?!?
  • The shorts content I get is mostly computer content and news, some branding because I have entered contests, and that is it. I have seen 1 short that was even approaching jailbaity and it was an add for a coming of age movie.
  • It has been literally over a year since I used Google to find a video (well except for a tech support video I keep loosing the link to that I use to help people with installing Windows 11 Locally) and I have been using Startpage which anonymizes Google results.

If you disabling your Ad ID and turning off your history and you still get all that BS I would be looking for an Exit Strategy to.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I usually get bombarded with Right-Wing content after I watch Juice Media videos. Also, if a watch a feminist video, it is usually followed by recommendations of “AnTi-WoKe” mansplaining videos. it is if they want to show “Both Sides” after I watch something about maintaining democracy and contributing to society in a positive way.

The YouTube Games are just another banner of unwanted “content” like Shorts.

The T&A shorts are usually of young women in jeggings and crop-tops doing risqué actions; if your mouse passes over the Shorts for a millisecond , YouTube autoplays them and registers as a view, creating a negative feedback loop of more and more scantily clad young women doing mundane things in a risqué way.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 month ago

they list YouTube Shorts multiple times in the Home Screen and most of the time it is just over-sexualised jailbait.

Commenters are quick to jump tondunk on you but they don't realize that youtune runs "studies" or just pump shit up if creator pays. Behavior here is indicative of a larger social issue with bootlickers.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Just use NewPipe (alternative YouTube front-end with more features and no ads)

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There was 0% chance of me paying for it before, and it’s still 0 now. A service is supposed to offer you goods in return for the money. With this service, all i get for paying them increasing obnoxious amounts is a big fuck you.

Google really just forgot that without the people on their platform, YT is worthless

[–] Limfjorden@feddit.dk 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd pay for youtube if I wouldn't also be exposed to tracking, however I much prefer supporting creators directly. IMO the platform should be paid-only and have a revenue-share system akin to Nebula. Fuck ads.

[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

I wish more creators were on nebula. I would like to support them on patron but $5+ a month per channel adds up really quickly.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fortunately their US subscription is so high already they couldn't possibly raise it any time soon.

...right?

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago

YouTube Headquarters: ^^^^Coming ^^^^Soon

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The more you tighten your grip, Google, the more users will slip through your fingers.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They are shooting themselves in the foot

Just make a usable website that isn't so terribly designed

[–] Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago
[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piracy needs to (and probably will)intervene.

Not until the large channels lose views because people are torrenting the content will anything change.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think there is such a thing as YouTube doesn't use any DRM. All videos are publicly available on a public facing service available to all

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the EULA for YouTube says they own all videos uploaded to their site. watching through something like Piped is a soft (and important) form of piracy

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You aren't agreeing the the EULA

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't get the comparison between YouTube Premium and Spotify Premium. YouTube does much more than Spotify so of course it'll be more expensive.

Those are steep price jumps, though. Google must have pretty high confidence in their adblock blocking tech.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To me that is the problem and why I'll probably cancel with this price hike. I don't want more. I got YT Premium for YouTube, mostly to support creators, cause fuck watching Ads. But I have to pay for Music, Podcasts and whatever other garbage they try to stuff in there. It was the same with Prime. I don't want to watch your stupid series, I just want free shipping, twitch prime and occasionally an old movie.

Sorry for the rant but these stupid subscription "bundles" are so annoying. The whole ecosystem is becoming shittier every year.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had heard before that YouTube premium subscriptions don't support creators, but a quick internet search says it does.

[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah. I've heard a few creators say they get much more money from a Premium user.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well yeah, but Spotify also does more than Youtube in some ways. Like, have a minimum amount of podcasts on it (I know I know, why not use a separate podcasting app, but for the little podcasts I listen to it's easier having it all in one app that is known to shit like Sonos and stuff), or have bands that aren't well known in the US.

Don't get me wrong, I loathe Spotify, but compared to Youtube's audio side they're a much much better experience. Hence I would usually rate them on-par in what they should cost: With Spotify you get a better experience, with Youtube you also get ad-free videos.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Curated music services like Spotify and Apple Music can give some great recommendations.

ThE aLgOrYtHm of YouTube gives terrible recommendations. It is as if it has no musical taste whatsoever.

[–] troed@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

They've figured out that it's impossible to have children today without paying for Youtube Premium Family ...

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

They must make a fortune on premium users compared to a regular user, I don't believe their adverts pays them enough to get them over 10$ a month for a single person...

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[–] young_broccoli@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

I find it funny that the "play" icon in the articles thumbnail picture (up-left corner of the red trapezoid) looks quite similar to newpipe's logo.

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