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[–] Donut@leminal.space 187 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Why is this a news article? It's a reddit comment to a reddit post. And while I like to take things at face value, believing a reddit post is another level of gullible.

[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This author and site should be ashamed for posting this is as real. Pretty much everything on the front page now is generated content by bot accounts with a single post that got tens of thousands of upvotes.

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[–] Shrp91@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

That entire site is about the same quality if not worse.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago

I 100% believe you

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 112 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Entire HR Team Fired After Manager Uses His Own Resume To Prove Their System Is Auto-Rejecting All Candidates Says Reddit User.

Fixed the title of this useless article.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I had a pre interview from someone from HR once and it was excruciating. They didn't know wtf I was talking about and I had to repeat myself many times over for very well known tools in my field. Now that I am the one looking over resumes I would never want HR to screen anyone, because they can't possibly know what makes a good candidate for every single position or even how to read qualifications correctly.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A good HR prescreen asks more about the fitment/personality of the person. I still think that should be up to the hiring manager because too many HR depts suffer from dunning-kruger and have too much power for a generally way too petty group of people.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

HR is made up of lizard people. They have no business judging people's personalities.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And yet most of us have to work to eat...

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's possible to both not be a cancer and earn a decent wage. Even in HR.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Possible... But doesn't happen often.

Working is cancer or maybe that just my experience being a low end wage slave

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Eh, it doesn't get much better when you get higher up. More pay but compounded stress.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago

A good HR pre-screen include somebody who's currently working in the department that they are hiring for, who has field knowledge of the position to see how the two of you mesh.

Fitment is more about how personalities match than it is with making the HR person feel good about you, and if the HR person cannot even understand the job that you do then how can they judge how well you would fit with the other people who do?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In my previous role I was leading a department, constantly needing to hire people. After some terrible initial experience, I didn’t let HR touch any of the CVs in the system, nor give a call to anybody, I started doing evertyhing myself. I was much faster in hiring than my peers, and good candidates also responded much better to a manager calling them. It takes effort, but shortens hiring time and improves the process a lot. There are of course limits, I was doing this for 1-3 open positions at a time, no manager could do it for 10, and I also had experience in recruitment myself.

Unless they have a dedicated HR person for a department/area that really learns the business and specializes, they are not going to be able to help hiring much.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago (18 children)

The amount of time recruiters contact me after i decline with "I had no idea you had [insert qualification started clearly on my resume] experience" is 100% of the time.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

If all human resources was being part scam and part class warfare on purpose, it's not clear what they'd be doing differently

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of my favorites was the one that contacted me saying that my experience at Microsoft made me an ideal candidate. They never responded after I pressed them for specifics.

I have never worked for Microsoft.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I used to have the title "system administrator" in my resume. I guess recruiters were just going off of single keyword searches because I'd get all kinds of emails about unrelated administrative positions like "social security administrator."

My favorite example was when I got invited to apply for the position of "ocean administrator." I looked it up at the time and it seemed to be about directing shipping traffic, but it's more fun to imagine that I would have been in some way directing the ocean itself.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It wouldn't be King Triton?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Poseidon's intern

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

I was rejected for a Master. I asked to know why and they told me it was because I needed a bachelor degree to apply.

I had two. At the very top of my résumé. At least they accepted me after I pointed that out.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not about auto rejections, but inept HR...

My favorite is in the earlier days of iOS and Android, like 5 years in kinda thing, there were job postings that required 8 years, specifically in Android or iOS, not just 8 years of development experience.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Requiring 8 years of any particular tech is ridiculous in of itself. If you haven't learned what there is to learn in 3 years, you won't learn any more in the subsequent 5.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but its a shitty tactic to pay less. "We wanted X years, but you have X-Y years of experience, so we can't give you the high end of the pay scale"

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Never thought about that angle. I don't think I've dealt with this kind of manipulative behaviour myself, but I don't doubt it.

It's such a dangerous game to play, as the "requirements" don't match reality. At least someone along that chain of communication doesn't know something they should know about their job. The alternative of just being a negotiation tactic would make me consider ending the interview immediately.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Short version: Reddit commenter says their resume system was automatically rejecting all candidates because it was looking for familiarity with the language "AngularJS" instead of "Angular".

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think the point of the article is not that there was one word mistakenly written, but that an entire department lied for months and never bothered to test their system, and that they felt it was normal to do so. In other words, the problem here was the human factor. Typos are going to happen no matter what you do, and if you're not planning around them then you suck at your job.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Sure, thanks for highlighting that. I wasn't implying anything about the lesson we should take away, just that the article didn't seem particularly information dense, it was mostly recapping a reddit comment.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 days ago

That ain't even a typo, just a variation...

But your point is very valid, HR clowns confirming bias here

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