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Wow thanks for preventing preventing WWIII guys!

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

Just think, if Trump were in charge he'd be killing this ceasefire for TOTALLY different reasons

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 month ago

but but but worldnews said USA is hard at work at this ceasefire too

Imagine if weapons companies weren't in charge of everything

[–] jack@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Will Europe finally grow a spine? If any current imperialist leadership in Europe has the gall to separate from the US, it's France, but Macron hasn't been much more than a vocally grumpy US lapdog.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Europe growing a spine is against their leadership's interests.

[–] reverendz@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He’s no De Gaulle.

Heck, he’s no Chiraq

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

They need to sanction the US and block our ships from the Mediterranean

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I sort wonder whether because it is always a given that America will veto in favour of war/imperialism, and people are used to that, Britain and Frances vote for ceasefire was pre planned to be an empty but people pleasing move, with approval from America. Europe aren't complaining about America doing such a thing, over and over and over for a century. They seem quite happy to just disagree and have that count as meaningful action.

In this scenario, America is to Europe as the Republicans are to Democrats. Europe needs America to be Mr Big Bad so it's rulers can continue to pretend that they care about peace.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

i think the UK/France are more oriented to Ukraine and pissed about the red sea interdiction, so there's somewhat of a misalignment in priorities between them.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Not to be both a turbolib and state the obvious, but the US really does deserve its status as fascism’s ringleader.

Imagine BRITAIN having the moral high ground over you, and any opportunity Europe will have to redeem itself is doomed to failure if it remains a collection of US satellite states

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago
[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

good cop bad cop

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

What about Lebanon’s legitimate problems to solve?

[–] neroiscariot@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Ah well, nevertheless