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The person running for office is a politician? Say it isn't so!

I wonder why this article is being released before the election, rather than later when the cooling of support isn't extremely likely to lead to a strategic disadvantage? 🤔 Oh well, it's probably just a coincidence. 🤷‍♂️ Definitely no ulterior motives here. 👍

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago

In America you don’t get to vote for a non-politician unless you vote for yourself.

But I wouldn’t do that because I don’t want that shitty job, either.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone doubted this. Harris/Walz is a pro-politician anti-fascist ticket. I think we're just looking for a sense of normalcy.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 72 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Right, it is only in juxtaposition of the Trump Vance ticket that theirs seems so... idk, righteous? Wholesome? But were this 20 years ago, they'd be pretty normal. It's only with the looming threat of another Trump presidency on the backdrop of what he and the GOP have wrought on modern politics that what should just be normal is so hopeful. But I'd love me some fucking normal right now so I'm gonna go ahead and still be excited about that if you all don't mind?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

I think the description you're looking for is sane, or at least not pants on head crazy with aspirations to despotism

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 64 points 22 hours ago

And JD Vance isn’t really from Appalachia, but Tim Walz doesn’t hang out with Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, and Curtis Yarvin, or degrade women who don’t have kids, and isn’t creepy as fuck, so what’s your point?

Nothing in the article is negative except for a quote from a conservative saying he’s “full of shit”. Got ‘em?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

The Atlantic really flexing their journalism muscle with this one.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 56 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with being a politician when you've positively contributed in other capacities earlier in life. Career politicians from the start are the problem.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There are always exceptions. Unlike most politicians who start their career by networking in college to accumulate potential donors later, Sanders was on the frontline of the civil rights fight.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

There are plenty of shitty politicians who started later in life. I would be surprised if the majority of politicians were always career politicians.

Trump for example.

The problem is that few upstanding people enter into national politics in the US, and the system tends to hinder their attempts to be good people.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Would you eat a turd or an old sandwhich you found in your bag?

Both are rotten, but one of them is much much worse.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What is that supposed to mean?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think the meaning is fairly obvious; an imperfect ally is better than an all-out enemy. If you wanna do politics, you need to learn who you can safely ally with, who your actual friends are, and who will always be your enemy.

Edit: oh wow, look at all those comments on ML. I wonder why this person would object to lesser evil rhetoric favoring the democrats.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, from The Atlantic even.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago

The Atlantic falls into the “both sides” trap and every so often throws out one of these af if they need to prove they aren’t biased. It’s Overton window shifting dumb.

[–] JerkyChew@lemmy.one 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

Fyi the internet archive has paywall free versions of most Atlantic articles

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 23 hours ago

https://12ft.io/

Is your friend. Just copy the URL and paste it in their cleaner. No paywall.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago

Yoda has arrived.