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Which is it? Which do you use? Are there different associations between them?

I've always said it "comrad," but when I started to meet people in orgs, they predominantly say "comrayd" (within the same country).

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My impression is that com-rad is associated with the USA and com-raid is associated with Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure what the situation is for other English-speaking countries, but if I were to hazard a guess, one pronunciation over the other might be associated with the relative prestige or influence of British and American English for that person, for instance if you learned the word through American media you might pronounce it in an American way. I'm not an expert, though.

I personally say com-rad.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

We're firmly in com-raid territory in australia, also I've had people pick fights with me after i casually called them comrade, that was a trip

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's pronounced tóngzhì, get used to saying it

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Do you think the slang comes from the homoerotic USSR-PRC propaganda?

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

It is from this Chinese slang term that Toki Pona got its word for enby, "tonsi"

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

its cumrag. i kiss all my homies on the lips

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the Welsh call their own language?

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

yeah the welsh speak cum

[–] idontknowwhattonamemyself@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it's comraid shadow legends

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Cum Raid: Swallow Goons

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

I use com-rad.

[–] underisk@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

How do you pronounce camaraderie? I’ve never heard anyone say com-ray-dar-e” so I usually go with “com-rad”

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I'd say "camaraderie" with the vowel in palm, and "comrade" with the vowel in trap.

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Exactly my thoughts!

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's also how I remember whether to say "ih-TAL-ih-yan" vs "AYE-tal-e-yan".. there is no "AYE-tal-ee"

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

none of the antecedent words contain an 'ayd' sound, i am forced to conclude this is some ridiculous RP british problem, and everyone else is doing it normal

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Just stick with /tʰʊŋ³⁵ ʈ͡ʂʐ̩⁵¹/ honestly. If you accidentally use it on an anti-communist you can just say you thought they were a fellow member of the LGBT community.

(I'm American and say comrad)

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

is that a rendering of 同志 in... IPA? doesn't look like IPA to me but I have little knowledge of it

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the Sinological IPA I got from Wiktionary lol

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

TIL how IPA does tone marks with those small numbers. very cool

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

There are a few different ways IPA can represent tone. I've more commonly seen tone represented with ˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥ which can form ligatures like ˦˧˥

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Well that's how Sinological IPA does it anyway

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

I seldom say comrade since I'm usually in public settings and have to generally avoid drawing attention.

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago
[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Either, largely depending on accent.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Broke: 'comrade'

Bespoke: 'tovarisch comrade'

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

This country had to be british

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

I call ppl "tovarshi"

[–] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

I say "camarade"; though in English I say "com-rad"

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

It’s enjoyer

[–] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago
[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

i'm dyslexic, i'm pronouncing things how they're written. its comrade and no amount of 'correcting' me wil ever do shit sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

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