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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I dont have any nitendo emulations but i guess this tells me i should collect some and save em on a harddrive just in case i ever need it.

Software preservation is a nobel act after all.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Inventing dynamite is also a Nobel act.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Or giving yourself ulcers

[–] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I immediately sought out working backups of both Yuzu and Ryujinx. The "bright side" of this situation is that it pissed me off enough to go acquire both the new Zelda game that potentially caused this whole situation by being leaked early, and the game that was at the absolute top of my to-play list: Unicorn Overlord. So far it is looking like a fantastic game.

[–] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

For anyone curious, Echoes is definitely playable on steam deck

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is the new one better than Tears of the Kingdom?

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

I like it more, but I'm a fan of the more classic Zeldas. It's good, but it's marred by the same technical issues that plagued the LA remake, and the lack of some basic QoL features like a Quick Select or Favorites wheel is bringing it from 'great' to 'good.'

[–] NateSwift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Looks like the github is still up if you're willing to build yourself

[–] missingno@fedia.io 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like this was more of a bribe than any legal case against the emulator. In which case nothing is stopping anyone from putting a fork back up, and gdkchan gets to laugh all the way to the bank.

[–] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm thinking less bribe and "laughing away to the bank" and more of a "Nintendo threatened to ruin their life with legal fees if it wasn't taken down". The frivolity of said case is irrelevant when they just bully normal people legally like that.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 7 points 2 months ago

a "reverse bribe", as is typical of nintendo

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Dev is in Brazil. They knew they had no chance of a takedown

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Problem is ....is that Nintendo may have "purchased" the code so anyone making or publishing forks would be in breach of "copyright"

[–] missingno@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Ryujinx was released as open source under the MIT license. They can't retroactively rescind that license.

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Lol it's like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

I still emulate a solid amount of their games I've had for most of my life because I don't want to wear down my old hardware.

They haven't gotten a cent out of me since the GameCube, though, so I understand I'm probably not going to be their target audience anymore.

Edit: Mobile, *its not "it's"

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Lol it's like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP.

This is a Switch emulator, meaning these are games that are still available for sale. It's not like taking down a SNES emulator or something Nintendo hasn't made available for 30+ years, it's involving games they're selling today. Taking down an emulator is literally Nintendo protecting its IP.

I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

If you were using this emulator, you weren't likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I'm no doctor, but... I'd have to imagine that's likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I don't support pirating products that are currently for sale, I do think it's essential that emulators like Ryujinx are developed now in order to preserve titles for later. Some Switch software already has been delisted, and someday eventually all of it will be.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you were using this emulator, you weren’t likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I’m no doctor, but… I’d have to imagine that’s likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.

Actually...I own a Switch and paid full price for TOTK on launch week. But playing the game in 30fps chunky resolution was very painful for me, as i've gotten quite used to 60fps+ over the last few years with 3D games. I almost put the game down in the first hour or so, playing the game was literally making my eyes hurt. That's when i went poking into the Switch emulation scene and set up yuzu (RIP). Within a few hours i was playing TOTK at 60fps 1440p and it was mostly glitch free. I put another 20 hours into the game before putting that down. But it was a glorious 20 hours, as that game is absolutely beautiful when you can wipe away the greasy look of 30fps low-res Switch graphics.

So...I am a Nintendo customer that was getting a better experience out of my purchased Nintendo game by emulating it. I know that isn't everyone in this scene - I see the reddit posts everyday for the past week about people playing leaked Echoes* of Wisdom. I get why that shit would piss Nintendo off. It just sucks that now, others can't share the amazing experience I had with TOTK.

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

I getcha, just have not been stoked about Nintendo's continual deathmarch against the hydra of emulation.

I honestly think it's more of a waste of money than it's actually worth and the publicity of taking down emulation sites is pretty bad for them (especially when they take down ones which deal with largely abandonware or really old games, like Vimm's lair did).

Without getting into the debate over the ethics of piracy or anti consumer practices, jumping into the fray by aggressively litigating and making a splash like Nintendo and Sony seem to focus on likely hurts their bottom line and certainly hurts their reputation with consumers.

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

It's funny, I own a switch and I would have bought the game (and I probably will still if the technical and QoL issues get resolved) but I'm emulating it better than the hardware can run it right now.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol it’s like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.

pretty sure the only reason nintendo cared is because ryujinx was prominently displayed in the leaked footage of echos of wisdom, pre launch

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

Nintendo's been way too busy in this scene for too long a time for that to be the only reason. I can see that such a leak wouldn't help, but they've been pouring money into these cases for years and have really ramped it up in the last five or so

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shiiiiiit. Now I'm really regretting not finishing TOTK on my PC back when I had that set up.

[–] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Last version is 1.1.1403, I'm sure you can find it some where still

[–] romano@lemmy.shtuf.eu 2 points 2 months ago

I don't remember the order I did anything in, but I maxed out the batteries, did 3 of the towns, and was about to start the 4th.

Then I put it down because I was bored of playing basically modded BOTW again. This was like a year+ ago. I'll probably never go back.

[–] Gamers_mate@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago

The lesson here is to download every single working nintendo emulator as a backup and share it with your friends. Emulation is legal after all even if the Nintendo mafia try to shut it down.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if Cemu is next...

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a fair question, but honestly I think Nintendo generally focuses on emulators that they perceive as affecting their current or near-future income. The Wii U is fully dead to Nintendo, at least for the moment.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They'll probably use one of these emulators in the future to emulate switch games on the switch 2.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago

but without any of the cool fps unlocker or upscaler mods

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I doubt that the Switch 2 needs emulation as it's very likely to be the successor to the Tegra X1