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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 62 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You know, in some ways, I appreciate Musk. He has gone out of his way to demonstrate, for all to see, how billionaire parasites get to fail upward no matter how irredeemably incompetent and vile they happen to be.

Scumwads like gates and Bezos hides it all behind walls of pr propaganda, but not Musk.

I wonder what a cyberguillotine would look like.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The Cyberguillotine is the door of the Cybertruck's trunk, which famously has no sensor to block closing it when something is in the way, and is powerful and sharp enough to cut fingers.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 15 points 12 hours ago

It can sense when something's blocking it from closing all the way. It was just foolishly programmed to only pop back open a few times. Think it was the third or fourth was where it went into guillotine mode.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 26 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

As much as I think the cybertruck is a stupid vehicle and agree that teslas are built like shit, from what I understand this isn't an atypical amount of recalls for a new vehicle platform.

Without even paying much attention the two I know of, the gas pedal and the singer slicer are unacceptable however.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

At this rate, they are better off just scraping the Cybertruck and issue refunds to everyone who was stupid enough to buy one.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

or build in a return-to-factory-by-yourself feature into them.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Are you suggesting that they get sent on route with no drivers in them and have the risk of running over pedestrians and cyclists on the way back to the factory?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 76 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (14 children)

We gotta stop calling software updates recalls. Yeah I get that it’s fun to bash on the Cybertruck but this isn’t really that interesting.

Now that sticky accelerator pedal… yikes.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

On the one hand I agree, but also just because it can be fixed over the air doesn't mean it's not a major problem.

Plus imagine if a car manufacturer put VERY shitty software into their cars. If a manufacturer has 100 recalls a year, I want to know why. If they have 1, I want to know why.

Just because they are more easily fixed, doesn't mean the recall isn't important.

[–] aard@kyu.de 126 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Recall is a legal term for the car industry which includes stuff like reporting obligations. So if the defect meets the severity level of a recall it should be called as such, even if it is 'just' a software update. Ambiguous terms for safety violations are dangerous and may cost lives.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 36 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Recall is also the plural term for a group of Cybertrucks.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Bruh, if this platform had gold id give.

Take these instead: 🪙🪙🪙

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 41 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Rear view cameras have been federally required on passenger vehicles since module year 2018 in the US market. So yeah, regardless of the error, it's a recall because the result makes the vehicle noncompliant.

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 35 points 20 hours ago

I’ve had software recalls for Toyotas and Hondas, both of which involved physical recall paperwork and required me to visit a dealer to install the new software.

Just because a software recall can be remedied over the air it doesn’t make it any less of a recall. As others have said, there’s a legal definition to a recall. They are issued by the NHTSA and require specific legal responses from the manufacturer.

[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Yeah..... But these are multi-ton vehicles and when they crash people die. Unlike when your computer crashes.

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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There are also plenty of dumb, nearly inconsequential recalls on regular cars too. Including things like "place this warning sticker in your manual". That's a recall.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

If the vehicle was sold broken and has to be fixed, it’s a recall.

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[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Tesla ~~engineers~~ managers treating it like software. "Ship it and we can patch it in production."

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

One of these days, an engineer, the best and the brightest of us, will invent a way for it to be technically impossible to fix in production. They will be a hero, and save hundreds of companies from bad decisions, and they will never become famous or wealthy for it.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You know it's never the engineers and always the managers even with software, right?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

always the managers even with software

You know, I want this to be 100% true, but it's not.

I've been in software development for over a decade and while the managers are definitely high up there on the list of causing problems, I've also worked with enough shitty developers that don't care enough. Then not everyone provides the same level of code review, some people are pretty bad at it and just rubber stamp things, and then a problem gets through.

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[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 31 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

What’s funny to me is there is nothing new in it. It’s trumped up garbage. It still has a chassis and 4 wheels. Nothing new. It’s stuffed with old tech that doesn’t work. These losers are guinea pigs and probably get scammed annually.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 39 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

You can tell Elon is a genius because he gets people to pay to do prototype testing for him.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

design shoulda gone into the circular filing system at the beginning

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just dropping a link to the relevant, most recent upload from Some More News aka Cody's Showdy. TL;DW: the cyber truck is an oversized, overpriced, unreliable, terrible design that's dangerous to everybody in and around it.

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago

Oh yeah, here's Some More News on that.

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