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Description: A meme with the caption "Okay so that was trolley problem version number 7. Janeway opted to run over five Tuvixes instead of one EMH." Below is a picture of the inside of a trolley with Janeway smiling and covered in gore. Michael and Eleanor from The Good Place are on either side of her. Michael is taking notes and Eleanor is amazed.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She made the right call, even considering the EMH is a hologram and thus wouldn't be harmed by a trolley.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She doesn't look happy enough.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's sad it weren't more tuvices

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago

She's building the (orgasmic) anticipation. This was trolly problem number 7, time to commence number 8!

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Kat... Um, you ok?" - Chakotay

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unrelated but that movie was disappointing. But I’m also someone who didn’t like Army of Darkness.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

We all know Evil Dead II is the best. AOD is full on silly, but I enjoy it through the lens of a demented Looney Tunes fan. Rise was mediocre. The 2013 remake was ok, though all it did was retell the same old story with updated cinematography and unnecessary CGI.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I love a good Good Place meme. Especially one tucked away and not often used!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

is there any number of tuvixen janeway won't kill to save an emh?

I don't think the emh is necessary at this point

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean imo the most ethical thing to do in the trolly problem is to do nothing. Let it do what it was going to do before you were there.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You have the option of killing 5 people or killing 1 person and you just let it go ahead and kill 5 people?

I'm going to disagree that you found a solution.

Some things in life don't have solutions, only compromises.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The trolley problem decision is entirely dependent on the amount of detail that's provided.

What if the 5 people are 5 Jeffrey Dahmers, and the 1 person is Mr Rogers? What if those 5 Dahmers had been reformed and had spent the past 20 years in selfless charitable service to orphans, and the Mr Rogers was 98 and expected to live only a few more months?

You can twist the conditions endlessly to sway the decision either way; however, I tend to agree with you: if you're given only the most basic information, the best choice is to save the most people.

If you choose not to decide,
You still have made a choice.
[–] teft@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's also dependent on what type of moral philosophy you subscribe to. A strict utilitarian will answer differently than someone who practices Kantian deontology.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Very true. I think Buddhists might agree with the top comment that the only moral action in this case is no action.

That's why, despite being a trite, overused topic whicha and any serious philosopher cringes at whenever it's brought up, I think it's a pretty interesting situation, where the answer says a lot about the responder. But it's been beaten to death, and I'm sure professionals are sick of hearing about it.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago