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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He hopes that Trump, on the other hand, uses his business acumen to bring down the cost of the products he sells in his store, many of which are imported from overseas. “Trump is not perfect, but we have no choice,” he says.

Hashim’s other major concern is Gaza, where more than 42,000 people have been killed by Israeli attacks. “The No 1 reason [to not vote for Harris] is that she is supporting Israel 100%,” he said.

I don't understand how someone this stupid is able to run a successful business. The high price of goods now is completely due to republican policies that have taken the brakes off of corporate price gouging and Trump has stated that not only is he 100% supportive of Israel but he will happily supercharge their genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza.

Also, the naivety that Trimp won't eventually turn on him:

First, they came for the Haitians...

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cant blame them, Biden\Harris are literally sending Israel the bombs.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah but if you don't vote Kamala, Trump will hurt Palestinians even harder and it will be your fault 🤡

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[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Great so now we can have a more certain Trump presidency. Why limit yourself to just one genocide when you can have this guy in power here too:

“How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,”

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Because Trump who literally said Muslims should wear a "Special ID at all times" back in 2015 is obviously gonna be much better....

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Read the article. Maybe half or more are voting third party, they hate trump and kamala.

The other, from one of the interviews, the last four years of Democrat led politics has literally been the worst in their lives for both themselves living in america, and for their friends and families who live in the middle east.

Assuming a democrat leader is best for everyone is part of the problem. There are groups of people who suffer under Democrat leadership, and ignoring them is just frustrating them.

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[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

Context:

  • I am not an american, so there may be some missing knowledge for me about the american electoral system.
  • I abhor Israel's genocide in Gaza, and I abhor the biden administration's support of (and Harris' seeming continued support of) the genocide.
  • My understanding is that Trump is just as, if not more supportive of the genocide in Gaza, and on top of this has his sights on doing some truly terrible things in the US re: minorities, trans rights, etc

So with that context, my question is thus: It seems clear that Trump wouldn't change anything about the genocide in Gaza, and that he would bring more evil than the current status quo. So if you're an american voter, you obviously can't let Trump get in. But, Harris is gross to vote for as well, even if its a "lesser of the two evils" thing. What do you do? As far as I understand its basically one or the other, you dont really have any third party to vote for right?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It's more of a difference in practical values. At what point does the "lesser evil" itself become intolerable evil? Some people insist that you should vote for Hitler over 101% Hitler, that there is no intolerable level as long as there is a miniscule difference. Others have firm red lines in the sand, like genocide, where they advocate for abandoning them and pushing as hard as you can, even advocating for moves outside the electoral system like revolution.

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