Nine theists decide whether or not theists should have special rights. Does that seem right to you?
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I always thought it was pretty far out for a contemporary democracy to have lifelong appointments with the word "supreme" in the title.
In the rest of the world this usually indicates something well divorced from democracy.
I’m a Christian that was raised on the ideology of the separation of Church and State and I’ve never understood why extremist Christian rhetoric determines so many of our laws. Almost the ENTIRE debate on abortion comes down to Christian ideologies - ideologies that we ourselves can’t fully agree on but insist on pushing onto others. My philosophy is the golden rule of doing unto others and all that. Condemnation is why we get a bad wrap and so many of us spit in Jesus’ face by constantly judging and condemning others for things we don’t agree with or even just don’t understand.
Similar background, but I was always strongly encouraged to read scripture myself. When I started pointing out how the scripture was pretty clearly in opposition to most popular Christian dogmas, it wasn't the dogmas that were seen as the problem, it was ME for pointing them out.
Scripture is pro-abortion, it does not condemn homosexuality in any way, it does not contain even the concept of hell, nor does it does not support the concept of heaven as an afterlife destination; but it does demand you always treat others with respect and dignity (even your mortal enemies!) and that you worry about your own failings rather than others. You are to live by example, not edict or meddling.
Modern "Christians" are not followers of Christ, but enemies. They spit on his teachings and the scriptures. They are an army of anti-christ cultists.
"And I will tell them bluntly: You were never one of mine. Get out of here, you criminal trash." - Matthew 7:23
That was growing up on Judaism. Those things weren't even a conversation.
It feels like Christians are anti-christian, as if a hate demon infiltrated and corrupted thier own faith. Does all organized faith end up this way? Or has always been this way from a deceitful inception.
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I like your honesty, but Christianity has a core problem in that its holy texts can be interpreted in a myriad of ways. There is no "plain reading," except when it suits someone's designs (and if it comes down to that, it's often to the detriment of individuals or society at large).
On top of that, the doctrine that "God's laws are above human laws" is what has given rise to special treatment of Christians; it's why pastors routinely are able to hide sexual abuse and then make a public show of contrition; it's why churches can be classified as 503c charities, yet are not compelled to follow the same strict transparency guidelines as secular 503c's.
The foundation of Christianity is too malleable and too easily weaponized by ambitious villains, and I wish more lovely people like you would stand up, say, "Enough!" and then do something about it.
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You people are real fucking quiet in the face of Christian Nationalism. You either need better PR or silently can't wait for the "kingdom of God" to take over and wipe us atheists out finally.
We try but we're facing the same horde of angry assholes you are. And no help from the pulpit. We're a pretty small minority.
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I apologize but I’m not sure I understand. If you mean “us people” as a whole, then I can’t deny that a lot of the anger is justified. The Christian banner has been used to say and do a lot of terrible shit by evil and misguided people. I may not agree with your stance, but I respect your free will and right to believe what you believe. You have as much a right to exist as anybody else does.
Damn it I wanna be mad. 😡
You're ok though.
🤣 Thanks. You’re ok too. Everything is so fucked up now and so much of the shit we see and hear every day just stokes the fire. It’s easy to be mad at things we shouldn’t - I do it too. You have a good one, alright?
I love demanding action from random people for the words and actions of assholes because they belong to some incredibly diverse group that also contains shitheads. It's so much easier than having to recognize people as individuals with their own values and judge them accordingly.
I'm going to go accost some hippie Universal Unitarians and demand they answer for the Westboro Baptist church. Maybe do the same to some Muslims and Jews later.
Because they organized and acted on a long-term plan, supported by a political party that courted them for votes.
Those aren't even ordinary theists, as you would find them in most places. But extreme Christians (nutcases) that have run explicitly on a platform of giving Christianity and Christians special privileges.
Nope. At least 3 of the judges should be (open) atheists if Americans were to have proper representation.
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As an atheist and a Jew I'm really tired of being doubly second-class in this country.
I'm confused... if you converted to Judaism, would you be a Jewish Jew? Or Jew²? Or Power Jew? Just curious 🤔
Ethnic Jew, Spiritual Atheist
Hell of a build!
Jesus Christ, ~~Son of God~~ Power Jew
Soon they will try to outlaw atheism
It already is in some places, as in if you are an atheist you cannot run for office.
Pretty soon it will be, oh sure you're allowed to stone someone to death as long as you're doing it in accordance with your sincerely held religious beliefs.
So basically, sharia law.
I just want shakira law where the hips dont lie
Look. I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."
Its my sincerely held religious beliefs that these people should have their face beat with a hammer.
Sharia law.
No taxation without (fair) representation.
Throw these turds in the bay.
Freedom is a two-way street. Remember that one person's freedom ends where another begins, and vice versa. If that line is ever allowed to be crossed, freedom ceases to exist. Allowing discrimination (based on inherent human traits) crosses that line.
There's no free speech quite like Christian free speech ⚔️
Well, obviously xtians have had their special privileges eroded enough as is, it's long overdue that their unwarranted special privileges are enshrined.
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