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Elon Musk, the world’s richest man who is now central to Donald Trump’s election campaign, has been in regular contact with Vladimir Putin for the past two years, according to a report in the US.

The Wall Street Journal, citing several in-post and former US, European and Russian officials, reported that the conversations between the two men ranged from the personal to the geopolitical and included a request from the Russian leader not to activate his Starlink ​​satellite internet service over Taiwan as a favour to the Chinese leader and Putin ally, Xi Jinping.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 243 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Isn't this espionage/treason? He has security clearance, he should not have contact with foreign government officials or sabotage our allies.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 125 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely, but he’s rich so it’s okay.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

Rich and a Republican

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 24 points 3 weeks ago

Or at the least, a violation of the Logan Act.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Also a potential breach of ITAR.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 122 points 3 weeks ago

Now there’s an immigrant destroying the country

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 91 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Someone remind me what happened involving Musk almost exactly two years ago... I'm pretty sure something relevant happened on October 28, 2022... I remember a little bird chirping in my ear...

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And, I even wonder if anyone would be surprised by this news.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 87 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So combined with his interjection into politics, wouldn’t this be two serious crimes he's committed?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but he has a lot of money so it is fine.

Everything is fine.

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[–] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what does the word crime even mean anymore

[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

It's when poor people do something the wealthy don't like.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 86 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

A billionaire might have done something illegal and possibly treasonous?

I wonder if anyone will follow through on this.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure Trump will follow through with a pardon as he hands the US to Russia

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would understand it if Musk was in anyway threatening. But he's obviously a child trying to sit at the adult table. All anyone has to do is insult him at grade school level and he flinches.

Him and most of the other wackos right now are like Bond villain D tier henchmen. How is no one taking these morons down? Is this really how the people in power cave, by letting these fools run free?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As silly as it sounds .... there was a similar argument for the National Socialist Party in Germany in the 1930s. Many people thought they were a joke and weren't taken seriously at first.

Put enough money, finances and marketing behind a movement no matter how insane it is and it can quickly go out of control.

What people don't realize is that it is money and finance that make these movements possible. They don't just appear out of thin air through the force of one personality or the cult following of one person. It takes money to sell an idea and the more money you spend on it, the bigger the idea will become. These nut jobs are being funnelled millions of dollars either directly or indirectly to spread their garbage. Part of the problem is the insane personality that everyone glorifies ... the greatest problem are the millionaires and billionaires and corporations that fund these idiots to push their own agenda from the background.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

When nobody stops the clown coup they eventually find their way into running the damn circus. Silliness is no excuse for evil, nor is general incompetence. There’s a reason that attempted murder is a crime.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

These nut jobs are being funnelled millions of dollars either directly or indirectly to spread their garbage.

In related news:

"Last week, the Justice Department alleged that Russian state media producers funneled nearly $10 million to an unnamed Tennessee-based company, later determined by CNN to be Tenet Media, to create and amplify content that often featured narratives and themes supported by the Kremlin. Tenet Media boasts a slate of high-profile right-wing, pro-Trump commentators including Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson and several others."

They claim to have been duped yet they're still keeping the money and still pushing the propaganda. Seems legit.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He has money.

People want money.

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The republicans tried, but you can't become president if you were born a South African

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[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wouldn't surprise me if Putin is deploying underage honey-trapping on these guys like Trump/Elon/Tucker/etc., covertly filming it, and then blackmail owning them thereafter.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

He doesn't have to. They all envy his position of power ( dictatorship).

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I think Putin might just be the big head, then Elon, then Trump

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[–] dephyre@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this be a violation of the Logan Act?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently, in the 21st century, you can violate the Logan Act as much as you like.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

When you run starlink they let you do it. You can do anything.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago

Implications for the ongoing election as well as the war in Ukraine. Starlink comms likely provide important intelligence that Putin could use.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is t there a law that says private citizens shouldn’t be representing the US with foreign leaders?

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

Why yes there is, from the 19th century. But it's not about abortion, so surely is unenforceable.

[–] yemmly@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

If he wasn’t the richest being in the known universe, he’d be fighting an indictment right now.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Of all the reasons I'd put that dipshit on blast. This one is just silly. Probably true. Not denying that. Its just stupid. That he, wildly overinflated dumbass of an ego constantly high on his own farts, thought his in-house security was better than the INFOSEC nerds at Langley.

Worse than that. It wont matter. This is America. The amount of money the fuckwit has means he's quite literally untouchable. Because this is the bad place. We live in hell.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

His businesses should be barred from getting any kind of government contracts. ISS would be hard, but definitely no army contracts, etc.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, just force him to sell spaceX.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Destroy the American traitors propping up Putin to dispel the invasion of Ukraine and score a victory for the planet.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago
[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

What do you want to bet the NSA has recordings of Musk's phone calls? Probably the only thing preventing the feds from using these recordings would be they would have to let on they have this capability.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just two years; I don't buy it for a second.

He's been in deep since well before he purchased twitter.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 6 points 3 weeks ago

Republicans get a boner.

[–] don@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

lol sure okay next you be telling me water usually seeks it lowest point and makes most things it touches wet 🤡

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