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Signups opened this week for Loops, a short-form looping video app from the creator of Instagram alternative Pixelfed, reports TechCrunch.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes, and it will still be brainrot.

My attention span is just fine. I don't need to see it ruined by short format nonsense with about as much intellectual value as the nutritional value of a McDonald's cheeseburger.

I never installed TikTok or Snapchat on my phone, not because I had privacy concerns, but because I hate everything about the format.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

I've been avoiding it for years and finally gave in in the moment of weakness. I uninstalled it very soon after because I hated the experience so much and never gave it another thought nor chance. xd

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 69 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think TikTok community is compatible with the idea of fediverse

TikTok exists to give you large floods of endorphins via either an algorithm trained to your interests or by giving you big numbers. And this is not exclusive to TikTok, this is just how modern "social" media works, it's the sole reason why bluesky succeeded more than mastodon

Modern social media is mostly a hive mind of people affirming each other driven by algorithms. Fediverse on the other hand, always boils down to a old fashioned usenet style network made just so people can talk with each other. You can't really get addicted to fedi

I wasn't really alive during the wild west internet (im 19). I got into the net during the transition from forums to modern social media and reddit was my first social. I tried getting into facebook and instagram because everyone else was there but I just didn't like it much.

I don't know why but "the algorithm" is really boring for me. I only tried algorithm driven feeds on reddit (after u/spez) and on tumblr but the recommendations were always extremely "fake". Other sorting methods like "new" or "by most active" just feel more like as if there was someone on the other side of the keyboard

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 55 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

You can’t really get addicted to fedi

Hmm... anxiously eyeing my Lemmy post history...

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’m not as addicted to Lemmy as I was with Reddit, because there aren’t as many comments and niche communities and an algorithm messing with me, but like I check Lemmy throughout each day and if I’m honest there’s not much purpose aside from getting that hit.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m kinda in line with you, but I have noticed that there are more days and even weeks if I’m busy where I never look at Lemmy. I don’t think I went a full day without Reddit unless I specifically decided to for like a trip with an SO or family

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 4 points 1 hour ago

You can’t really get addicted to fedi

Phew, I was getting a bit worried.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago

Could be worse. Could be flying squid.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Partly why I use Voyager with page numbers. Gives you a clear stop point.

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I had some days that I spent hours debating with people, other days I just chill and chat with people, particularly on Mastodon.

and then theres.. Lemmy, I was probably addicted to the hardest. The score system would keep me checking it and i'd be interested in keeping my score up high. I'd even argue that it made me a better human being.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's weird seeing how "the algorithm" has genuinely only made things worse. Falling into the YouTube rabbit hole was a thing, and it was entirely organic. From the loose connections of topics, you could start from any feel good funny video, and end in detailed documentary about MK Ultra.

The best algorithm was no algorithm and there's no way of ever going back to that. I feel pretty lucky to have experienced the internet before it became everything.

my favorite feel good funny videos are about Mk Ultra and the three letter agencies (IRS FDA MSG)

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd be surprised if it wasn't a bit more subtle than that. While the medium really facilitate the behavior that you describe, I'm pretty sure that it also hosts sane usages, creative content and positive communities.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago

Headline should say coming TO the Fediverse.

"It's coming for you!" has a more aggressive meaning.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 39 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

My problem with tiktok/reels/shorts is not that they aren't federated. It's the entire format/concept I hate.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think I might like them better if they didn't auto-play. I hate anything that auto-plays.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 55 minutes ago

Let's take it a step further, a tile based feed where you can pick yourself what would you like to watch, wait...

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I think if you're just looking for quick news breaks then it can be useful but if you're looking for detailed content or lengthy movies, or skits. Something like Youtube would be more preferred. I think for me it depends on the content.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I watch a ton of YouTube. I love it for entertainment and some news. I absolutely hate YouTube for tutorials or guides though. If I'm trying to figure out how to fix a computer issue, I just want to read about it and have screenshots I can look at. I don't want to have to constantly pause a damn video or scroll back and forth to find info.

As far as tiktok style videos go I just hate everything about them. I hate the auto play, I hate the vertical aspect ratio, I hate the stupid auto voiceovers, I hate the dumb floating captions and comments overlay, I hate the lack of volume adjustment or the ability to pause and rewind or seek. I hate the types of brainrot content that people make to work the algorithm. I hate that the format has infested YouTube and IG with no real way to be rid of it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Agreed, except youtube is great for any guides on stuff like vehicle maintenance. Want to know how to do something on your car? It's almost guaranteed there's a youtube video walking you through the whole process.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 1 points 22 minutes ago

Agreed. Automotive repair is a big exception to my video tutorial hatred. It just makes more sense as it's something being worked on in 3 dimensions. It would probably work well for home improvement stuff as well.

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

If you hate the content, find out other types of content that does work with the short videos. Surely you could find some kind of use from it? From the videos being short it has time saving potential particularly I can see that atleast.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think if you're just looking for quick news breaks then it can be useful...

No, even then, that format is even worse. Good journalism often has a nuance and detail to it. The short-format video nonsense barely has enough time to get through a headline and a broad summary.

The 24h news cycle is bad enough without trying to shorten it further to 90sec ragebait clips.

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

I addressed that actually. I said if you wanted more detail then youtube or peertube might be better.

But if you just want a quick glance, then that's why I said then maybe the short form content might be preferred.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

Anyone actually got an email? I have signed up and haven’t gotten one all week :(

[–] pushECX@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Haven't gotten mine, either. Email said I'd get an invite like that night, but one never came.

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 4 points 3 hours ago

I got this email 5 days ago and nothing since

Hi @Fitik, We're thrilled to welcome you to Loops.video! We're in the process of onboarding all our new users, and we can't wait for you to experience the magic of short looping video. Keep an eye out for another email from us later tonight or tomorrow (depending on when you signed up). It will have all the details you need to get started, including how to create your first Loop. Welcome to the Loops community! Regards, The Loops Team

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago

Not yet... Just waiting

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[–] precarious_primes@lemmy.ml 145 points 7 hours ago (12 children)

Maybe I'm just old, but I traveled by plane recently (I don't fly very often) and seeing everyone around me mindlessly scrolling short-form video content was shocking. Looked identical to the people in the space ship in WALL-E.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 124 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

Dude, it's the airport. It's boring as fuck.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 27 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can have tons of fun at the airport as long as you don't mind getting on the no-fly list.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 61 points 6 hours ago (7 children)
[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 46 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the next one won't be boring though

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 27 minutes ago

Or the next one

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They should go do a crossword puzzle and get off my lawn.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Tbh, doesn't sound like a bad option.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah there’s probably a park with a lot more grass

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What tf you want them to do?

I don't see how reading magazines, what people used to do, is any better.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

You don't see how reading is better than watching a video?

[–] whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

I’m not an expert, so take this as far as you’d like — reading has real benefits to our brains such as improving vocabulary, improving critical thinking skills, and improving focus. I don’t think short form videos give us the same brain benefits.

Here’s an article from Piedmont health on the benefits of reading. I haven’t seen such an article for short form videos, but am open to it if there is one.

https://www.piedmont.org/living-real-change/health-benefits-of-reading

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[–] rodneylives@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I signed up for Loops the first day. I didn't get an email confirmation until two days after, and I still haven't been given a way to sign in.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 49 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Im guessing it's going to be missing all the features that make tiktok popular like duets and pedophilia.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 67 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

They don't have to sell or provide videos to third parties, because they can just do it themselves.

That's the nature of actual federation. It's not private.

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Lemmy’s final boss..

Then again, Lemmy and ActivityPub are (by design) wide open to anyone, including TenCent

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