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Its time to switch to Linux!

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

I have a crazy idea.

What if y'all get together, and make a guide on an easy way to switch to idk Arch, since Valve is working with it.

You know, so that they don't have to spend a lot of money, and don't have to worry about losing all their data, and hopefully so they don't have to learn everything about Linux so they can enjoy using it right away.

Ha, I almost believed that was realistic rereading it.

[–] foo@feddit.uk 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Exactly. Us Linux users, as a collective, tend to shoot ourselves in the foot here because we can't decide on the "best" distro for beginners. If we all just said one thing, with confidence and without arguments, and without saying "it depends...", more would probably make the switch.

No major outlets that the average user would frequent are likely to sell laptops with any Linux distro pre installed. Many non-technical users wouldn't even reinstall Windows by themselves, let alone Linux.

Any of the usual starter distros would be a good choice because once they are in the ecosystem they can find their own path. When a non technical person asks how to get Linux, there is no worse answer than a barrage of information followed by more questions. Just pick one, say it confidently, and assist them to make it happen.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

People like choice, but people don't want to have to spend time choosing or learning.

That's why I mentioned Arch - because of the tie in with the Steam Deck. Nice and easy for gamers to make a connection to.

What becomes the difficult sell is that people, in general, don't understand computers. It's the bane of my existence. Any Linux distro requires a basic understanding of how computers work. The Windows PC and Apple products were successful because they required no learning and the user was relatively protect from messing anything up.

The Steam Deck was successful because it took that same approach. It just uses a variant of their Big Picture mode users are already used to.

Linux, by it's very nature, is not something that can be widely adopted by consumers. I think that's why Apple and Windows (hell, even Google with Android and Chrome OS) can get all the invasive technology to the user they want, and force users to adopt even more invasive things. Because people just won't learn anything else. And that's not something any of us can do anything about.

[–] Ohbs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And which distro would you pick with confidence? (Legitimately asking, I don't know which one I'd pick)

I’m so anti-Ubuntu but I would probably put that out there and roll with it. You can move on to something better once you figure it out anyway.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 55 minutes ago

Absolutely not, even if we could all work together that would be a horrible idea. Linux is not a Windows replacement and the Linux community doesn't need to be overwhelmed with Windows users asking why a specific feature doesnt work exactly the same.

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty easy with the guided installer currently shipping with arch, and there are actually numerous guides on how to install Arch.

Choosing not to is perfectly reasonable, but it's not for lack of effort from the Linux community trying to make things easier and more accessible.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 43 minutes ago

I use arch BTW

                   -Microsoft
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

There's a bunch of beginner friendly distros, it's just that when you want to make things work as well as they did on Windows then you hit a wall.

I'm using Mint (which is as beginner friendly as it gets)... Because my display signal dropped whenever there was load on the GPU on Bazzite (Fedora based) which is also supposed to be beginner friendly...

No easy way to disable the audio outputs I don't actually use. On Windows? Couple of clicks, all done through GUI.

Wifi antenna didn't work, had to install unofficial drivers from GitHub.

I've got a multi display setup and sometimes I want to switch where things are displayed. On Windows I downloaded Monitor profile switcher and it does everything for me, just had to save the setup to a profile and assign a keyboard shortcut (which isn't essential as there's a shortcut to switch it on the taskbar), it's all done inside the program. On Mint I had to create a script to choose what to display with what resolution and create a new keyboard shortcut in a separate program because the alternative was to have to open the file explorer to open the folder where the script it saved to execute it.

Playing games is easier than ever! Except that games that have both a Linux and Windows version fuck up when it comes to cloud saving on Steam because the save game folder isn't necessarily the same (and the Deck installs the Windows version by default so fuck compatibility between that Linux running machine and Linux PCs!) so you still have to force install the windows version even though there's a perfectly playable Linux version!

Don't want to use the terminal? "Everything can be done without it but using it makes things easier..." When people say that they mean that you can browse the web and write stuff on LibreOffice but as soon as you deviate from stuff that you can't accomplish with a simple Android tablet you're fucked because you'll have issues you couldn't imagine. If you don't want to use the terminal at that point you need to write scripts outside the terminal and then execute them so technically you didn't do what you needed to do in the terminal but the end result is the same!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

I mean, we have no laws about os support.

Imo a very common sense one is to make any software too old to maintain just open source.

Ownership in software should be based on who is willing and capable of maintaining it.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 10? I'm on Linux Mint 22, which is more than double the number.

Checkmate Microsuck.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

MFW I revert to Windows 2000

😎

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Linux can also be susceptible to attacks and breaches too.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

"no, wait, not like that!"

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 40 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

no longer receive security update

[–] trouble@lemm.ee 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure w10 still receives updates

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's scheduled to stop receiving them October 14, 2025.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago) (1 children)

1 year until my distro search is forced to come to an end and I must choose one.

[–] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 2 points 17 minutes ago

PopOS for not tech savvy, Arch for tech savvy. Can't go wrong.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago

They just fired two workers for organizing a protest against supporting Israel. You don't have to make up conspiracy theories to convince people that Microsoft: Bad.

Step 1: damage your customers

Step 2: ?

Step 3: profit

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine a virus that installs linux on that date.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Sounds more like a cure to me

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 10 is coming up on 10 years old. Things can't live forever.

MS learned that from XP.

[–] foo@feddit.uk 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I recall them saying Windows 10 would be a rolling release and it would be the last one you ever had to buy. Could be wrong though. I don't pay much attention because I haven't used it since Windows 7. I don't have a link to back this up, just my hazy memory.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, the update from 10 to 11 is free

[–] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 1 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

If you have compatible hardware, that is.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago

Are you also angry at Microsoft because Windows 10 doesn't work on a Pentium 150 with 32mb of RAM?

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Anything big happen on January 14th 2020 or January 10th 2023? Legit question

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Its time to switch to Linux!

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[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 2 hours ago

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[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social -5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Hold your hats people, the Grammer Nazis are coming for this one. Holy hell.

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[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago