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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 127 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 weeks ago

Apparently you’re a nazi if you vote for either, so you should just not vote

  • totally not an astroturfer
[–] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 89 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

what does the guy who's openly threatening the future of American democracy think about my taxes

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 98 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He thinks your taxes are too low and billionaires taxes are too high!

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I was JUST thinking my taxes are too low!

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

he promises a tax plan that will not materially improve things for you or i and a reduction in the things that taxes go towards that benefit us

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

and the people that stand to lose the most because of him call him their God emperor and vote for him

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 63 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

With a more representative electoral system, we could have more then two buttons. First-past-the-post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system, which is why we must replace it as soon as we can.

Yall believe in democracy right?

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I'm with you. What's your plan?

[–] Rivalarrival 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I might not leave the country, but I’ll have to leave my state. I wonder if next Friday after work I’ll need to load up everything I can fit in my car and drive as far north as possible. It’s terrifying that my rights as a transgender human vanish will vanish overnight where I live. I’ve heard of bounties in Odessa.

Knowing that most of the people I live and work around are happily voting for a child rapist has broken my brain. The folks protesting at the Planned Parenthood (abortion is already illegal here) are going to vote for a man that’s probably paid for multiple abortions. It’s a sickness I can’t fathom.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Its sickening what is happening to this country, that you even feel the need to flee in such a way, but it is a realistic concern. There are people who very much want carte blanche to harm trans people, and if Trump is elected they may get that cover, its vile.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Undecided voter = person who cannot discern truth

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

I don't understand how there are undecided voters this election... I understand trump voters. Ride or die republicans, bigots, wealthy people that want more money for themselves. They are fucked up, but they make sense.

But how are you undecided? What are you weighing up. If you're not in the aforementioned groups, what single positive thing does trump offer?

[–] stochasticity@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've seen some people try the free speech angle. But that isn't true either. Neither he nor Elon are actually about free speech.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

No, they're inherently more anti free speech than the people they're puroportedly against, anyone using that justification is either ignorant or only cares about not getting in trouble for being a bigot

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Left out rapist under Trump's "accomplishments"

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can't vote because he's not a citizen. I think he's just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don't come here legally as lazy.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’m going to go out on a pretty long limb here and suggest the possibly that they’re not actually undecided at all.

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've read (not sure how true) that it's not necessarily undecided between Harris and Trump - more undecided about even showing up to vote.

I honestly don't know what's worse.

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[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It appears a good chunk really loves the racism thingy

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A perfectly good meme but I would say it might still presume a little too much good faith.

They're not undecided. They want to vote for Trump and are desperately hoping for a socially acceptable reason to do so.

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[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Spotless is a gross way to describe her career as a prosecutor.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

Don't know why you're being downvoted, Harris isn't perfect but with Trump on the other side not much is required of her to be the best option.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

"Pedophile" is missing from the trump one...

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Are there really many voters undecided between Harris and Trump?

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

sadly yes. there are people who are still on the fence. given that 70million people will look the other way and vote for him despite the lies, dementia, racism, Facism, Nazism, narcissism, sexism, felonies, fraud, racketeering, sexual harassment, etc. I'm not surprised a few million are on the fence.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Naw there's just a bunch of people who won't admit they're voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don't want their friends/community thinking they're voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they're undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they're voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.

They may not even want the fascist part. But they're voting for Trump because they think one day they'll make over $500k/yr and they don't want to pay "200% more taxes" (it's actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they'd never say it.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Undecided voters are the dumbest people on the face of the Earth.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I disagree. Trumpers are definitely worse.

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Apparently putting a huge number of people in jail for minor possession of a drug that is only illegal because of racist 70s politics is spotless, and doing so to support capitalizing the prison system, is spotless. I call it dehumanizing and unconstitutional, but I just care about empirical data that apparently is completely unimportant in tribalist capitalist worshiping countries like the USA.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't count "spotless prosecutorial record" as a win, but given the two viable choices I'll take it over "shockingly successful fascist demagogue" every time, and twice on Sundays.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Four more days. And then another year? Maybe ten?

It's exhausting.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

He's not a Nazi; he's a fascist. Nazi refers to a specific political party. Fascist is more general.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 20 points 3 weeks ago

The distinction between a "real" Nazi and a Hitler fanboy is too fine to matter.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

If he walks like a nazi, talks like a nazi and acts like a nazi. He's a fucking nazi.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He wants to be Hitler, so that's close enough for me.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, I'm not saying he's any better than a Nazi. Just being pedantic.

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[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

not to be in support of trumb, but if someones records are spotless that is inherently suspicious to me. is she even allowed to run for president if she hasn't visited a sex trafficker?

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Her record isn’t spotless, but when you compare someone to trump it might as well look spotless because the context of trump makes it look so clean

I’m not fully knowledgeable about her record since I have more pressing things to worry about rather than researching harris, but as a queer person, I am aware of some of her shortcomings regarding queer rights.

She has explicitly tried to prevent trans people from receiving gender affirming care when in prison and challenged a ruling in favor of a transwoman to do so.

Source: (washington blade)

She also supported trans women in men’s prisons which is an extra horrific experience for a trans person, since queer people are generally more likely to be assaulted, raped, and sexually assaulted in prison. Trans women in men’s prisons have it the worst.

This happened in the past, but with her not explicitly making trans rights a campaign issue in the face of how much discrimination they are currently facing, it is concerning.

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