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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I think I'll do some data Analysis on how much this community shits.on third parties, non voters, and Republicans relative to how much they advertise what's good about the Dems.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

would someone like to explain to me why dem turnouts were SO FUCKING ASS this cycle?

Did you guys just like, forget to vote? What the fuck happened?

[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think there are 3 reasons.

  1. The economy is ALWAYS, FUCKING ALWAYS, the driving force behind the general public's vote. The current American economy, when observed at a macro level, has been great under Biden's presidency. Inflation induced by COVID and Trump's first term policies has been declining, GDP is up, the trade balance is good, and interest rates are starting to come down. Americans aren't benefiting from this in their personal finances. The wealth gap is severe because of trickle down economics. The democrats are shit at communicating this or even having a plan for it. Instead the democrats campaigned that identity politics were as important as the economy. Just fucking stupid. We all know the democrats policy on minority rights and protections. Talk about the economy and how you'll make individuals wealthier.

  2. Some exit polls asked what emotions voters felt when they voted. The bi-partisan answer was overwhelmingly anger. (I think it was a cnn poll and a smaller website poll.) Guess which candidate plays into that emotion and guess which ran on "good vibes and joy."

  3. In 2020, Harris wasn't well liked and didn't primary well. She may have done her job well as VP, but the public didn't know about it. She and her campaign didn't even communicate what she was doing. When she was "anointed," that turned off many democrats. Most of the excitement came from relatively few. The relatively many democrats or people who could be persuaded to vote democrat were not motivated. At current count, Trump has lost about 6 million votes from 2020. Harris has about 14 million less votes than Biden in 2020.

TLDR The DNC are master fuckups

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

I’d wager a fuck ton of them moved far left and stayed home.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago

Did you not see the meme? It was obviously because of REPUBLICANS!!!!!

Those darned Republicans made you not vote!! It's always the REPUBLICANS!!!

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[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its only been 24hrs and this post aged like milk.

[–] Maganra@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Aged like fine wine my dude, ~14mill less dems showed up to vote

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

And the fault for that lies squarely with Democrat politicians.

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And thus, instead of fighting the actual enemy, the republicans, you're antagonising the people who are more reasonable. Next time you can do it like France and call leftist crazy extremists so you'll seem less hypocritical about it.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Been saying this the whole time. Libs were shaming and harassing undecided voters for weeks instead of acknowledging that the dems were running a god awful campaign and pivoting towards nazi policies.

What are you talking about?!?! The Dems ran a flawless campaign, it's all the voters who are wrong!!! Don't know they know what the Dems tell them is right is right?!? Don't you know you're fucking stupid if you have any qualms about not voting for Harris?!?

  • 90% of Lemmy users right now trying to find any reason to blame anyone but the DNC for their hubris and entitlement
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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I think both Dems and Republicans suck in very different and not proportionate ways, but I am also a very big proponent of voting. Go vote! It's your duty.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I find that the thing people need to remember is that the general election is purely damage control time. For actual change, and getting candidates that don't suck, the work needs to already be done by the time the election rolls around.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 31 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Some of us are actually not Democrats or Republicans because we really think both sides are bad in different ways. I still voted though.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's still worth it to register for one of the major parties to vote in their primary and push them towards your actual politics. For example, I wouldn't consider myself "a Democrat", but I am registered to the party and I vote as progressive as I can in primaries.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From what I've read, the two times Trump won, many Democrats felt that they were denied this choice, which left them disillusioned, and they didn't vote. I don't think that's the main reason for Trump's victory, but what you touched on was definitely a factor in the Democrats' loss.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I wonder how many times we need this to happen for people to learn that letting others make your choices for you will often lead to your worst possible option.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 2 days ago

Not all states work the same. In Ohio I can just show up and tell them which one I want to vote in each time. I always vote in the Democrat or Republican primary, I get a voice without committing to one or the other.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

But then you don't get to brag about your enlightened centrism.

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[–] Bromine@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

If you're a politically uninformed citizen: Please. Do not vote. It's your right and duty.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

If third parties wanted to actually do some good in the country, you'd see them running locally and encouraging either ranked-choice voting or STAR voting (Score, then automatic runoff).

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago

Yup, they know they’re outnumbered so they try every trick in the book to stop the Democrat bloc surplus from voting.

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