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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 105 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Personally, it kinda feels like a weight's been lifted. Now I can let go of the last shred of pretense of this country being anything other than a fat fucking joke.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I was really hoping this sentiment would take hold the first time Trump won and it would awaken people to the boiling pot mass charade we are in.

It did not.

I do not have much hope for this time around.

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm now aware that the US contains 71 million fascists, racists, sexist, bigots, or a combination of all 4.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I stopped by Walmart today and spent the entire time painfully aware that I was... surrounded.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

I'm with you there. I mean don't get me wrong, I sure do feel depressed and also morbidly curious/looking forward to the upcoming schadenfreude, but yeah just accepting that America is really a racist country and it's not going to change.

Just going to bide my time here since I'm too old to move even with a tech job and encourage my kid to go to college abroad.

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.cafe 75 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

I was born just before Reagan was elected. Growing up, I got the mostly mistaken impression that America had some of its shit sorted from Vietnam, WWII, and all that 20th century turmoil. A period of stability. Upward trending society. Reagan undid a lot of that progress.

I've been watching this country die, slowly, for 45 years. This has been such a weird time to be alive. Fighting over scraps we volunteered to subsist on instead of overthrowing corrupt and cruel systems. We had periods we thought we were recovering. We had hope. I feel today like there isn't any left. Another four years of this, and it will be worse.

He struck a fatal blow. He used the tools of fear and rhetoric to do it. The weakness was there, the vulnerability. And here is the next evolution of American fear. We're a country voluntarily destroying itself out of fear of our imminent destruction. We had everything, and we gave it away.

We heard the call of the void, and we've answered.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 188 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

We are so fucked. The repercussions of this election are going to effect everything from SCOTUS to county courts. This is so utterly disgusting. People looked at the shit spewing from his mouth and said, "Yes, represent me."

Fuck this country.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

This SCOTUS is the real issue. By the end of this term, Trump will have appointed 7 of 9 justices if Thomas and alito take the opportunity to retire.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 45 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Fuckimg depressing that probably 1/3rd of people didn't vote. And of the 2/3 of those that did - most of them voted Trump.

So basically a minimum of 1/3 but more likely more than 1/2 of Americans wanted Trump and the Republican Party to represent them. They voted for:

  • Russian dominion over Ukraine and further aggression on its neighbours
  • Chinese genocides and aggression on its neighbours
  • mass deportation of vulnerable and productive members of society (he calls them immigrants)
  • men controlling women's health and avoidable deaths
  • oppression of LGBTQ+
  • racism
  • fraud
  • corruption

Why? Because they believe that Trump is going to make them richer.

Nice people.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 60 points 16 hours ago (33 children)

I don't wanna hear any more moralizing and complaining from young leftists who can't even be bothered to perform their civic duty and vote. Shut the fuck up. What happens to Gaza in 2025 is on you, not Harris or the Democrats. And when you bitch about the genocide, remember that you facilitated it. You gave up your duty and gave Netanyahu exactly what he wanted, a clear path.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I voted so I'm sure you won't mind hearing from this leftist. The problem isn't people who didn't vote. The problem is how the Democrats ran their campaign. They continue to punch left to try to appeal to moderate right-wingers who will never vote for them!

Instead, they should have punched right and tried to appeal to their base on the left. Even the "scary far left people" like me.

How to do that? They should have come out against the genocide in Israel instead of sicking the police on the fucking protesters.

But sure blame random individuals and what they chose to do. That sure sounds like The first step in fixing a large structural problem. /s

Not that it matters anyway, we won't be voting again not for real anyway.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago

Blaming the left for the party going right, alienating the BIPOC and queers voters she swore to protect as she made friends with the people who want to harm BIPOC and queers.

Yeah it's our fault we weren't too confident in someone who uses minorities as useful idiot pawns for a game of Chess she doesn't wanna win.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You've learned nothing. If you can't win against a convicted felon and rapist with a national party infrastructure and billions in the bank you are a completely useless party.

Enjoy being relegated to the dust bin of history with the Wigs now that it's clear to even laymen that the king has no clothes.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair those missing nearly 20 million voters who didn't show up weren't all or even mostly leftist and progressives. They're your bog standard Democrats and independents that fucked everyone over.

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[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Funny how you never blame moderate republicans who refused to switch their vote.

Maybe you should appeal to someone else next time?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah it fucking is; they ran a fucking campaign that ignored the anti-genocide movement and instead decided they would win by campaigning with God damn Liz FUCKING Cheney and Laura FUCKING Bush instead of God damn Palestinian Americans and the anti-war movement. They wanted to win by going to the center, and they once again fucking LOST doing it, and it's somehow the God damn left's fault? Maybe, when your candidate loses with a strategy that the left tells you is a bad fucking idea, it's time for you to shut the fuck up, not them.

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[–] AmbiguousProps 356 points 21 hours ago (74 children)

I'm trans and I'm terrified, terrified for my queer friends and family, terrified for Ukraine and Palestine, and terrified for the planet.

If you didn't vote or voted for this piece of shit, fuck you. If you voted for him, you deserve the massive inflation and shit he's about to put you through.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Exit polls show 12% of lgbtq voters voted for Trump. 12% of lgbtq voters voted to be jailed, castrated, and discriminated against by their country. That is not only terrifying but also embarrassing.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 98 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Harris got 15 mill less than biden. Trump got same number of votes basically.

They just slept

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

The Democrat vote is ALWAYS 15 million below Biden's RECORD popular vote number! Trump got HUGE numbers for a Republican. Do your homework, and stop trying to create a narrative using COVID numbers.

[–] InSamsara@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

They just slept

Look at this snoozer. Absolutely sleepymaxxing. A bedtimepilled pillowcel. Got a blanket under his head just lost in the sleepy sauce.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 103 points 19 hours ago (25 children)

America made it clear that they will not vote for a woman. Especially a woman of color. Fuck America

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 190 points 20 hours ago (18 children)

So, I always thought it was just a mean bully thing to say, but, as a group, Americans really are dumber than a bag of rocks.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

And all of the accounts that I've been tagging here for the past several months doing everything they fucking could to get Trump elected? Nowhere to be seen. What a shock.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago

Why should Dimitri log into any of his burner accounts? The job is done.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 185 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

The Supreme Court will be changed for a generation. I’ll never see a moderate court again in my lifetime. Alito and Thomas will step down and Trump will appoint 40 year old partisans to the bench. The damage he is about to inflict on our institutions the next 2 years will be irreparable.

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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago

It feels like the Lion King but Scar killed Simba as well.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 233 points 22 hours ago (12 children)
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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 187 points 21 hours ago (14 children)

Now watch the effects ripple through the world. Now that a guy like him can be elected, politicians around the world will take note and use the same playbook. And it will probably work.

We already felt it in France with the 2016 US election, I can't imagine what the next decade will be like...

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 200 points 21 hours ago (102 children)

America is a country full of stupid people.

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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Just with a bit of estimation of the remaining 12% of votes uncounted, Trump is going to beat his 2020 vote record by a couple million, 81 million on the high end and maybe closer to 77 million on the low end. Unlikely, but possible he beats the 2020 all time record set by Biden. Definitely beats his 2020 numbers.

Kamala recently pulled ahead of Hillary's 65 million and Obama's 66 million, she's gonna end up around 71-74 million.

Kamala lost the Popular Vote. In fact she won some blue states by smaller margins then she lost some 'swing' states. Nevada might not even be tight enough to qualify as a swing state this election(needs to be 5% or less, Trump's currently winning by 5.2% meaning it wasn't a swing state), meanwhile Minnesota was won by 3, New Jersey by 4, New Hampshire by 4 and a half, and Maine might be lost we'll see, but those 4 were all swing states as the margin was less than 5%. New Mexico and Virginia came very close(and New Mexico would have been under 5 without RFK Jr dragging Trump down a point).

This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again. 2028 a tight election with a Democrat win could see them lose the PV and win the EC.

I had a ton of 2004 vibes from the start and it looks like that was correct. He is coming back to serve a second term, and YES, this time he won the national electiiion

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again.

I don't agree with this. Republican majority States are still over represented. They just happened to also win the popular vote this time. The scenario of Democrats winning popular vote but not electoral is still more likely than it happening to Republicans

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