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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 14 points 1 hour ago

Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump's perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.

But at least you won't have Kamala's pantsuit to complain about.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 5 points 1 hour ago

The planner will never recover from his systematic sabotage of all efforts to save it. This is what scares me most. He lies through his teeth to make money, a lakey to soulless corporate mega entities and the entire human race will pay for this one man's greed, long after he has died. Our kids will pay for his opulence and that to me is so sad.

[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that's even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.

I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren't serious about project 2025 (if you haven't read that you should) it's real bad.

The Fifth Risk is a very good read for anyone who might be interested in a finer grained look into the lesser-known functions of our government 👍

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you're a white Christian male you are the shit.

Anyone else is losing rights

Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.

Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control

Inb4 Trump’s Nazi base on Venus.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Who cares, it's what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I'd be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America "puffing up in smoke" would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.

[–] Giorgsen@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

You must be a confused on what it is America does around here. Forget the public distractions of television and the political discourses.

Ask yourself a question, why isn't Russia in Europe right now? Why are pirates not commandeering trade ships? Like it or not youre asking for your securities to be removed. Or wishing it.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Lmao these are their publicly stated goals, take your head out of the sand

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lol wut? Is this a meme, or am I about to go down a rabbit hole?

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Nah i was trying to make a jokes about the US leaving a vacuum

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Lmao Texas, Florida and Arizona wouldn't be able to handle the idea of that.

"UNITED STATES OF CANADA"

America was actually going to annex Canada at some point a while back too.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 27 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can't just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that's unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he'll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.

Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone's guess, but it'll at least be restrained by what's realistically possible.

[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

I'd love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don't cooperate with trump's agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you've never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.

[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)

[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 hours ago

Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …

[–] Giorgsen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

I was talking about your Russian statement. Lool

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 16 points 7 hours ago

The US is just as fucked as everything and everyone else, which is 100%

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's actually likely to be better as long as trump waddles on. He's just so god damn bumbling that even with all the cards, he'll find little ways to not get his shit done.

Mind you it won't be enough, and it will be god damn fucking horrific. But decidedly less smooth while Narcissism Jones keeps grabby-handsing the wheel from his handlers and derailing his own goals.

[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Until they kill him or use the 25th amendment to install Vance. Now that he’s won, you think the people around the useful idiot who have accepted all the Russian money will just let him fuck their plans up?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

He seems to lack competence in many ways, but some of the guys around him are a whole lot more conniving and potentially effective.

It's also not likely Trump feels any urge to hire a somewhat moderate(ish) cabinet of professionalls like he did last time. I assume he learned his lesson given that they all eventually turned on him.

So let's see. I think he's spent the past 4 years surrounding himself with some bad hombres, to borrow a saying, and now he's ready to act with fewer guardrails.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

anywhere from not really, to literally world war 3.

trump is a loose cannon.

We do not win here.

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[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Trump was pretty ineffective in his first term, largely because he did a terrible job of supporting people who really agreed with his agenda, and an even worse job of removing people from influential positions who didn't.

He said during his campaign that he knew much better who to trust, but now he's got Elon Musk and RFK Jr. prominently featured. I don't think he has learned anything, and I think he will be just as ineffective this time.

It's possible that some of the Republicans in Congress will support more of his agenda, but even there if they have to overcome the filibuster, I don't think mass deportation, a federal abortion ban, or most of the rest of the potential worst of it is in the cards.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

I reckon that in all likelihood the Project 2025 folks will piss him off at some point and he'll just throw a tantrum and refuse to work with them. Doesn't mean he'll suddenly turn into a leftist, but if he doesn't play ball, they'll have trouble getting anything passed.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

They'll kill off the filibuster as soon as it gets in their way. They don't care about tradition or institutional continuity. And anyway, the Democrats seldom resort to the filibuster, they just bend over.

Trump and Musk will have a power struggle within a few months. Trump hates the idea that someone's richer than him, and will want to humiliate him. Trump will dump RFK Jr too, as soon as Jr gets more publicity than Trump. What will be semi-permanent are the careerist shitstains like the Speaker, the God-botherers with their crusade against women, and the anti-immigrant scum.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It depends...

Do you think Jimmy Carter has seen the season 4 finale of Breaking Bad?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

depends on how much of his immunity he chooses to exercise. also be intrtesting to see how many of the new repuglicans fall into line with his shit policy

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago

Honestly who knows, it's literally on the whims of the giant toddler and who he listens to last that afternoon.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago
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