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We all know the saying: scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds...

I expected to see a bunch of random strangers on social media complaining about the election and suddenly pretending to care about human dignity.

But it hurts to see family, friends, and trusted content creators going down pipelines not dissimilar to Red MAGA pipelines. For as much as they hate Trump supporters, liberals are becoming just like them.

There is one creator on TikTok named Seema R (@artlust) who I occasionally watched. I guess she has a career and education as an art museum curator. Occasionally she dips into political topics, and I never had any major issue with her thoughts on those.

I was going to share a specific video of hers from today, but it has been deleted in the past hour or two. She was practically foaming at the mouth about nonvoters, calling them anti-semites and mocking them for complaining about "gEnOcIdE" as if that is some childish complaint.

(Edit: Here's a video with a similar vibe as the deleted one: https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435258288767290654)

The shock of this video gave me a huge sense of dread. I think the election of Trump finally set in, but more than that, I finally let go of some silly hope I had that Trump's re-election would wake up liberals and realize the commies were right. But from all appearances, the exact opposite is happening. Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies. It's going to be a nightmare for the next four years and I fear that America is far more defenseless to rabid fascism than I thought.

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

theres not enough of us in existence to tear down and satisfy their bloodlust

i guess they'll just go after everyone left of neocons and fully disenfranchise like 90% of their party.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not left, not right, but a secret third thing

It's fascism

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"I made a new third thing."

"New third thing, or just more rightwing again?" disgost

"More rightwing again." sadness

[–] Neoinvin@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

americans for the most part do not take communism seriously as a potential ideology. however they're very willing to take fascism seriously. so if liberalism failed them, there was always going to be one way things could go.

[–] Stolen_Stolen_Valor@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Most Americans in my experience don’t know what either word means. If you use either one they just make up something seemingly on vibes.

It’s a little more interesting when you describe policy without using the words.

Describe something communists would do: “Ya that sounds good we should do that.” Call it communism: “That’s a bad idea.”

Describe something fascists would do: “That’s evil” Call it fascism: “Not everything is fascism.”

Some people even use the words interchangeably as if they mean the same thing.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Most Americans think communism is when everybody earns exactly the same wage and everything belongs to the government.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

all the liberal trans people i know are legit just nonstop freaking out its frankly very draining. a lot of these people are very well off so its very much a first-time situation

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

im not trying to shame your comment or anything but for me if you are trans and you are feeling a lot more anxiety right tbh its not unfounded and i truly hope it doesnt get as bad as it has the possibility to.... so what im saying is if your liberal well off trans friends are freaking out a little i do have a lot of sympathy for them

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i have sympathy for them, but theyre ultimately afraid of certain meds being taken away and a lot of poor trans people are already doing DIY. basically it just means these well off trans people are gonna need to DIY like the poors already do. so all these well off people think its the end of the world, but it really isnt, they just dont know everyones been building independent structures without them. and frankly, they shouldve been helping us build independently from the get go, being reliant on the cissies is a mistake.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

true but i dont subscribe to the survivor bias political discourse

it sucking for others means we should working to lift up others, not being callous towards those who might lose things everyone should have basic access too. abandon this boomer mindset

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

? I'm helping them. Its not a boomer mindset, you're extrapolating

I'm just saying its a bit draining to deal with someone freaking out over an election when I know and regularly assist trans people living in ditches that have been failed by the ideologies these lib trans people espouse

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

the next 2 years will see a Cambrian Explosion of new species of liberal insanity, hold onto ur butt

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

Don't worry too much. Liberals are incapable of remembering history. To maintain their ideology they have to shake their brains like an etch a sketch every week or two and start fresh

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, isn't it weird that cloistered art people who by and large focus on aesthetic presentation with little regard or insight on how those aesthetics are or were produced en masse would indulge in anti-communism or, idk, anti the concept having a moral compass in the slightest.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think she's more of an art historian, but that just makes it all the more devastating because she should know better

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

It's less about who they are, and more of the company they likely keep. Art historians are absolutely obsessed with aesthetic, though.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

If she knew better she'd probably not have such a career to begin with tbf

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies

Are you new? Not joking or trying to be mean, but history shows very clearly that libs will become/side with fascists over us every time.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Do I understand it intellectually, yes. I still held some hope. I also don’t like presuming that kind of rough deterministic forecast to things. Just because a situation kinda looks like 1918 Germany or something, doesn’t mean it will play out exactly the same way.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Since the election?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Turns out catharsis isn't always healthy.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

It really is funny watching the internal conflict.

"Now i dont want to sound like Maga by saying this election was rigged despite zero evidence because thats whata maga would do and obviously im better and smarter than them.......but the alternative is admitting dems suck at politics so you know what fuck it they cheated and stole the election."

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay so I found the video I originally wanted to share. She didn't delete it, she just blocked me after I left some helpful comments

https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435666759027412254

Sorry, I am not familiar with computer monke-beepboop

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The helpful comments I left were something to the effect of:

  • I couldn't find a non-Israeli source for "90% of Jews voted for Kamala"
  • Even if that statistic is accurate, it is coming from exit polls, and does not necessarily reflect all Jewish Americans (in particular it excludes those who stayed home)
  • She claims that we should listen to the Jews who "actually do something" and show up and vote for the lesser evil, but she is inconsistent by ignoring the many Muslims who either voted third party or didn't vote at all — as a form of activism
[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"obey the jews" is a crazy political tagline

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Getting into weird anti-deutch territory

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

"Did something"

Uh no you lost the election. Voting for kamala turned out to be just as "performative" as the dems were blaming third party voters to be.

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah I unfortunately had to unfollow Seema R a little while ago. She was really scaring me in the weeks leading up to the election and it sounds like it has only gotten more toxic.

[–] SocialistMonk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But it's been fucking awesome to watch the libs cry so much, tho. Especially over in the politics subs on .world. lmao