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[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

None of this would have happened if you people voted in Kanye. Dude hated both Net AND Yoohoo. Literally twice as nice.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Whenever you need a concise moral judgment 2 years after it would be helpful, warrenn is there.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't Eli Valley predict this exactly? Like, as soon as Trump won, Democrats would "bravely" stand up and declare that genocide is wrong.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Warren called for arms embargoes seven months ago. Wait for someone who hasn't been against this for months before taking the told-you-so victory lap.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you provide a source for this? I haven't heard Warren call for an arms embargo, but maybe I'm not in tune. From what I understand very few senators support the arms embargo, despite wide support.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Blocking the sale of a military aircraft is not the same thing as an arms embargo.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

“I think it is clear that Congress has a responsibility to act. We have legal tools here. And as I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to a country that is in violation of our own laws on this."

F15s were just the next thing to be sent.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

And yet, Warren voted "yes" to sending $15b worth of military aid to Israel only weeks later..

One could argue that, because there was other aid to Ukraine tied into the bill, Warren didn't want to risk the passage of the bill. I would say that a supposedly principled senator like Warren should have realized the gravity of the situation and follow her brave words with brave action. Other senators like Sanders and Merkley voted No on this bill for exactly that reason. In fact, Sanders tried to introduce an amendment that removed Isreal's funding from the bill but received no support from people like Warren..

One could argue that Gaza aid was tied into the bill as well. However, Israel has been known to be blocking aid into the region, even before this vote took place. If Warren truly cared about the refugees/people of Gaza, she would have supported Sanders' second amendment to the bill to restore funding to the UNRWA, which provides most of the food, water and shelter to Palestinians. But she didn't.

I couldn't find any other mention of her supporting an arms embargo after this vote either (unless I'm missing it, which is entirely possible given how difficult it is to find this shit). I remain unconvinced of Warren's resolve on this matter.

[–] pudcollar@hexbear.net 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good thing she held off until after the electionsssssss to stand for her beliefsssssss.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Gaza humanitarian situation

Netanyahu could look directly into the camera and say "I am committing a genocide in Gaza" and they would still refuse to call it a genocide.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

“I am committing a genocide in Gaza”

Standing ovation in US Congress

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago

Lmao

Hasan called it, Democrats about to become the most ardent critics of genocide

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago

They are beginning the "face turn" for Gaza just like they did for Iraq. They fully support and do everything to paint the protesters and anyone against the wars/invasions as "extremists" or doing the bidding of another nation. But the moment that they take a large enough L, they start loudly acting like it is they who have been on the "front lines" fighting against the shit they helped spread. They will go for the cheap "pops" and use the language of leftists and the people that have been actually in the shit. Just like they did with civil rights and women's rights by painting those brave souls as libs/centrists and remove all leftist bits out.

I am almost convinced that the Dems actually wanted to lose badly. As they tend to get more blind voter support while playing the "underdog" role. But the moment they get control again, we only hear about how they "can't do x because bipartisanship (or whatever fake reasons)."

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Democrats: Coming out against genocides they started and perpetuated for decades, bravely.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

She is still a horrible person who have excused Israeli crimes in the past. Hopefully this is the beginning of real change.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

She is doing this only because it doesn't matter, Biden is leaving and he can do whatever he want for two more months.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think she’s finally realized that almost all the compromise has been one-way.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

She was calling it a genocide and for Congress to block arms sales 7 months ago. And called out Netanyahu In February on the senate floor.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah but she gave Biden a free pass until today. She was one of the many who fell in line behind Biden, terrified that any critisicm no matter how deserved would help Trump. Finally critisizing someone in here sphere of influence for a change.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Blocking F-15 aircraft is not the same thing as blocking arms sales.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago

Are fighter jets not "arms"? They were just the next arms transfer being talked about at the time.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Which if she really cared about anything. She should actually know for decades that compromising to the right only helps the right (and plays well for the hard-line centrists that love speeches and photo ops but don't want to do real work). She hasn't realized anything, and is just prepping for pretending to have "always fought for (insert major cause)."

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol its fucking working. These stupid fucks could have avoided all this by arriving at this conclusion a year ago. Nearsighted sighted ghouls.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

It isn't working, we are just seeing fake stances on shit that she and all the Dems were tripping over themselves to create from the jump. Fuck her and all the Dems! Don't let them ever convince you or anyone that they are to be trusted any more than the Repubs. If the Dems did win big at all levels, they would just keep sending weapons and military aid (just like they have been).

To be fair; Fuck all these assholes, Biden is slipping in and out of this mortal coil. Why the fuck is he in charge of anything?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Elizabeth, you might want to save your energy until 2025

[–] whithom@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

Oh Warren, doing whatever she can to stay relevant