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[–] Realtor_Hate_Account@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the collapse of the USA will look more like the fall of the USSR than Nazi Germany. Americans are lazy and stupid. I think things will eventually just start to break down (more) due to neglect and incompetence while an increasingly small number of oligarchs consolidate their power and wealth

[–] hogslayer@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the collapse of the USA will look more like the fall of the USSR than Nazi Germany.

I hope you're right about that!

[–] Realtor_Hate_Account@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Me too, hogslayer

[–] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's too much capital tied up in the federal government for this to actually happen. The haute bourgeois finger breakers will wrangle Trump in once he's actually in office.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess man. Im not convinced anyone with any power knows how to do anything like that anymore, we're like two generations out from the actual capitalists that ran this place.

[–] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I feel like once you start fucking with serious amounts of money some competent rich people who's names you've never heard of cuz they're smart enough to stay off Twitter start coming out of the woodwork.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's what's so "exciting" about the present moment. With Trump valuing blind loyalty above all else with his cabinet appointments, will he actually be able to make the bourgeois state dominant over individual bourgois interests? That is the ultimate goal of fascism, after all. They will elevate the dominance of the ruling class systemically, by overriding capital's preferred methods of state control.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, the real money that runs the capitalist world is people who we likely have to search out their names and learn very little about.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not people though, it’s a social structure: a set of systems and rules with no one person in charge that, once broken, is very hard to put back together again.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is the core, yes. But there are some really shitty ones out their that like their privacy and have a very high degree of influence.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago

Ill believe it when I see it. All the ones that appear to have any power are hard to describe without using an ableist slur

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

maybe. i don't know how they can be competent if they were effectively handed the money as a birthright though.

like i understand the fear, but i think we're overestimating what's really going on there

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

Can't wait to be jailed for being on medicaid and taking antidepressants because RFK Jr. thinks Adam Lanza (who's also an alien) was programmed by prozac to kill.

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's christmas for accelerationists everywhere

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please tell me he's actually doing the "doge department" nonsense

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

They're going to cut a trillion dollars that would go to the rare good things in the US budget and then give a trillion and a half to the military and corporate cash. As is tradition.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they've said so far it's going to be non govt so a glorified consultant basically

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lmao, so Elon will just get paid even more money to sit on his ass and tweet.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

it's basically an advisory board (so far).

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is hard to tell if Trump cronies will just sit in their government positions and try to scam money for themselves, or if they will actually go full hog on the (crazy) stuff they are proposing.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will the “adults in the room” actually do something? Or are they just gonna quietly stockpile resources and hope Elon has a mars colony ready to go in 2028?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

They haven't done fuck all in nearly 10 years since Trump won the Republican primary. They won't even stockpile resources. They'll continue to stand in the corner acting smug as Trump sends the FBI to kick down their doors and drags them off to ADX Florence.

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[–] Moss@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If Trump did something clearly threatening to the USA, like try to leave NATO, then the deep state would obviously get involved. Way too much money invested to just let that disappear

But appointing the sweatiest swine to positions of leadership? That's actually genius. Comrade Trump has found the perfect loophole to destroy the government.

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

also bold move to go to war with China, Iran, and 50% of your own population. Let's see how it plays out.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago

a-little-trolling Vote for me now and you won't have to do it again.

anakin-padme-2 Because you'll be a dictator?

trump-drenched

anakin-padme-4 And not because the US will have collapsed by 2028?

trump-moist

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Comrade Trump helping the environment by getting the Pacific Fleet turned into artificial reefs in the South China Sea.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AtomPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

I’m ready to be accused of narco-terrorism because I happen to be Chicano while the US invades Mexico to “fight narcos.”

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m just hoping that as co-head of D.O.G.E. (Bleh), Elon does something so ineptly corrupt that the SEC absolutely buries him and Trump is so annoyed by him that he doesn’t step in to intervene.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

other parts of the federal government are just going to legalize corruption if that happens

[–] SocialistDovahkiin@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn't already legalized? Could've fooled me

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

you gotta keep up the figleaf and elon basically already broke that by only accepting applications from twitter blue users

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there's no way a new Dept get's made or Elon actually get's a cabinet position.

they've said it's gonna be non government so just the highest paid consultant in the country presumably

[–] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump seizes elons 400b doll hairs and distributes it to the people in a stimulus check

[–] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

xi-plz new world record TAS on stream

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump IS the strongest vanguard of the modern revolution.

[–] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Careful, the MAGA communist fash heads believe this unironically

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

He's using a hacked ROM to give himself godmode.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Is he gonna level wrap past Indiana and glitch out straight to revolution?

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