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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through "diplomatic means" as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine "must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means."

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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

zelensky-navi I want to end the war diplomatically, but only next year. Sorry, but some of our people need to die until I do what I already decided to do

It comes as German chancellor Olaf Scholz spoke with Mr Putin for the first time in nearly two years.

The German leader urged Mr Putin to pull his forces out of Ukraine and begin talks with Kyiv that would open the way for a “just and lasting peace”, the German government said.

The move was swiftly criticised by Mr Zelensky, who said the call had opened a “Pandora’s box” by undermining efforts to isolate the Russian leader.

“Now there may be other conversations, other calls. Just a lot of words,” said Mr Zelensky in his evening address on Friday. “And this is exactly what Putin has long wanted: it is extremely important for him to weaken his isolation and to conduct ordinary negotiations.”

zelensky-pain Diplomacy in 2024 is bad actually. Only next year!

Truly the hero of our time.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Good news. Hopefully the bloodshed can be ended as soon as possible.

[–] md5crypto@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Shitlibs want endless war in Ukraine, till the last Ukrainian is dead.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 17 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

lmao the war in ukraine really was just a Democrat political project

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

Well no, this has been a bipartisan project stretching back decades. Brzezinski Mapped Out the Battle for Ukraine in 1997

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Because Trump won?

...we're jumping to conclusions a bit, aren't we?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 22 points 20 hours ago

And their response to the genocide and pogroms in Palestine proved their hypocrisy.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

i wonder if it was an american military industrial complex fueled excuse to create a new profit stream in a new proxy war between russia and nato.

ukraine is perfect because the russians will never give them up for a myriad of reasons and that guarantees that american military contractors will be able to milk profits from ukraine as a proxy battleground country for as long as both russia and the united states exist; longer than any of us here today.

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So it looks like it's finally happening?

[–] chillBurner@lemmy.ml 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The best time to take ceasefire was before.

The second best time is now

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago

And they're still going for the second worst option: later

(The worst option would be never)

If they know they're going to end the war diplomatically, why are they delaying? Extremely cruel to the people fighting today who know their deaths are meaningless, that they're only dying cause it's still early.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What he likely means "ending the war by diplomatic means" is not talking or negotiating with Russia. No, that would be worst heresy imaginable. When he has previously talked about the use of diplomacy to find peace, what he really means is for Ukraine redouble it's efforts to beg for more money and weapons, but also get US and Europe to put more pressure on countries like China and India to ditch Putin and support Ukraine instead. Zelensky has talked along these lines before. Make his position seem reasonable to those who who want Ukraine to seek settlement, when it really isn't any different from "Zelensky's peace plan" that can be summed up in demand Russia's unconditional surrender as a precondition to any kind of dialogue.

I fear it's this kinda crazy talk that we are looking at. Zelensky or his inner circle just bring themselves to talk to the Russians, nor can they talk about things like giving up even places like Crimea. They just can't give an inch and we all know what happens to the reeds that don't bend with wind.

[–] _pi@lemmy.ml 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy literally cannot advocate for negotiated peace. The Right wing nationalist elements of Ukraine's coalition will effectively murder him if that becomes his position. It remains to be seen what will happen to him when he's forced into it by the reality of the war and the waning of international support by his patron states.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago

He's likely just going to flee to US or UK in the end.

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