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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday that Israel would “crush and destroy” Hamas in response to its attack.

Netanyahu said every Hamas member was a “dead man.”

Netanyahu made the remarks in a late-night televised address as Israeli planes pounded Gaza in response to the unprecedented attack.

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[–] Devi@beehaw.org 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And he's doing that by genociding the entire population... that's totally morally normal

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 19 points 11 months ago

A “final solution”, as it were.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 25 points 11 months ago

Honestly it’s sound more and more like Netanyahu let this happen, if not created the circumstances for it to happen, just to create a rally round the flag effect because his goose was cooked legally and electorally

[–] Titan@beehaw.org 21 points 11 months ago

In other news, an elementary school and 2 hospitals will get bombed tomorrow because someone uttered the word hummus

[–] ours@lemmy.film 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What Hamas has done is horrendous and undefendable but there's no military solution to removing extremism. They'll just end up killing many more civilians than Hamas has murdered and cementing the next generation of extremists.

Israel will likely be able to crush Hamas as an organization but I doubt anything better will rise from its ashes. I'm certain it was Hamas' goal to trigger such a reaction and with the escalation triggering a wider conflict.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

I don't think it was Hamas' calculation. That scenario assumes Hamas members literally dead.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny, coming from the guy who wanted Hamas to be funded in 2019.. I wonder why...

Looks like more "special military operations*, you guys.

[–] statist43@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Do you have a source for this? Would be kind of hypocrit for him to do

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sure, here's one from the Jerusalem Post.

https://m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-Money-to-Hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-Palestinians-divided-583082

The motive was clear, and that was to delegitemise other more balanced political groups from Palestine. He basically propped up Hamas because he knew what their intentions were.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 17 points 11 months ago

You can always count on warmongers to talk big when they know with absolute certainty that they're never going to be the ones in danger.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mifan@feddit.dk 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How would a nationless world work?

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

By creating City States. Totally different.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Every man for themselves and anyone that clicks up gets head hunted.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this is what happens when you create borders

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Also, the whole "illegally annexing land, destroying people's homes, propping up Hamas to delegitimize Palestinian political groups, and attempting to slow walk a genocide against the previous people" thing probably didn't help Israel's situation either.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

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Click here to see the summaryIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu joined with a top political rival on Wednesday to create a war-time Cabinet overseeing the fight to avenge a stunning weekend attack by Hamas militants.

In the sealed-off Gaza Strip ruled by Hamas, Palestinian suffering mounted as Israeli bombardment demolished neighborhoods and the only power plant ran out of fuel.

Medical teams and rescuers struggled to enter other areas where roads were too destroyed, including Gaza City’s al-Karama district, where a “large number” were killed or wounded, according to the Hamas-run Interior Ministry.

The risk of the war spreading was evident Wednesday after the Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah fired anti-tank missiles at an Israeli military position and claimed to have killed and wounded troops.

Hamas said it launched its attack Saturday because Palestinians’ suffering had become intolerable under unending Israeli military occupation and increasing settlements in the West Bank and a 16-year-long blockade in Gaza.

Associated Press writers Amy Teibel and Isabel DeBre in Jerusalem, Jack Jeffrey and Samy Magdy in Cairo and Kareem Chehayeb in Beirut contributed to this report.


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[–] Paragone@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Learned-helplessness produces both Nihilism & Sadism.

The Russian soldiers' habit of making torture-chambers everywhere proves this.

Russian culture's "fate regime" concept of relationship also proves this ( it proves the learned-helplessness aspect of it ).

( apparently that article explaining how in Russia, people entirely accept that fate, and nothing else, decides who marries who, is now .. gone??

Neither DuckDuckGO nor google have it... )

Deterrent requires that both parties have aversion to destruction.

However, when 1 party has become nihilist, then they can assault the other as a means of baiting the other into sadistic-aggression, in order that all the neighbours commit to annihilating the one who was successfully baited into demonstrating genocidal sadism.

Israel won't exist, in 10 years, no matter what, now.

NOTHING can make the Arab world accommodate its life, now.

Nothing.

The Christian Bible's Matthew 24 had a prophecy that is about to become historical-fact, in the coming decade.

Here's a decent version of it:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt+24&version=AMPC

That bit around verses 15-20 is the pertinent area.

Simply wait 1 decade, and see: if Israel still exists, as a country, in 2033, I'll eat a hat.

And it was entirely preventable, had there been enough committment to having neutral authorities in West Bank ( UN ), and NO political-dishonesty OR nationalist bullying permitted from either side...

Needless, politically-enforced & needless...

: \

[–] potterman28wxcv@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

The Christian Bible’s Matthew 24 had a prophecy that is about to become historical-fact, in the coming decade.

Here’s a decent version of it:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt+24&version=AMPC

That bit around verses 15-20 is the pertinent area.

Simply wait 1 decade, and see: if Israel still exists, as a country, in 2033, I’ll eat a hat.

The nice thing about prophecies is that they can never be proven to be false. Indeed, one would have to examine the future to prove it wrong. Which is either impossible or unrealistic.

Me too I can make a ton of prophecies and claim they will be eventually right. I will never be wrong.

Let's see. Let me prophesize that:

  • The US will cease to exist
  • We will encounter aliens
  • See where you are living right now? Eventually, it will be filled with lava.
  • See where you are living right now? Eventually, it will be flooded with water.
  • A giant comet populated with nyan cats will crash on Earth

However, you can be sure that in 2033 I will come back in this thread and have you eat a hat. Marking the date and the link in my calendar. If lemmy is still alive, that is

[–] probably@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Wtf is this? Israel won't exist in 10 years? The Arab world won't accommodate them?

They are on better terms with much of the Arab world than they have ever been. They are certainly on better terms than Hamas is. Hamas has Hezbollah and Iran (Persian not Arab). Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Morocco, Bahrain, and Sudan all have formal relations with Israel. Turkey had long had formal relations with Israel.

And for most of those that are adamantly against Israel aren't exactly in the position to really start something that they know would escalate to US involvement. You think Iran is going to Nuke them or something? Because Israel is rather established.