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[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 252 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s

I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.

Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.

But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.

I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forget all the other traditions, the true meaning of the season is a battle of rhymes with a skeletal horse

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 117 points 1 month ago (9 children)

And spawned an even longer shit fit.

Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 105 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm from Australia and snowflakes during December is hemispherist and offensive to us down under.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We can replace it with an emu.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 42 points 1 month ago

No, that brings painful war flashbacks.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah? Well I see your use of kangaroo shapes as elitist and many other -isms. Even the taste of marmite is discriminating! Etc. *spits in the general direction of Australia*

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago

they replaced the hat with a snowflake?

As someone from the global south i find the snowflake in winter offensive!

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[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ what is wrong with people... Microsoft giving in to a clear troll, surprised they didn't just lock and ignore that shit and move on.

[–] BangersAndMash@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ is not my Lord and saviour. I demand you delete this post immediately and apologise. This is as insulting to me as pineapple on a pizza

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[–] Ansis100@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice. Honestly, pretty well corralled, I would say.

Incidentally, I'm amused that one of the more popular responses includes the classic phrase

"Why can't we all just get along"

Which I tend to notice after having had it explained well to me once by someone with more empathy than my own.

I won't belabor it, but they pointed out to me that being tempted to say "Why can't we all just get along" is usually a sign that we haven't actually listened effectively.

So now when I hear or read "Why can't we all just get along", I see that [X] and hear the buzz from "Family Feud", and hear one of the Family Feud host kindly say "No points. Let's try again."

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[–] josefo@leminal.space 82 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't capitalism a religion?

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[–] geogle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, they took inspiration from Clement Clarke Moore's (1922) "Twas the night before Christmas" and illustrations from Thomas Nast (1881) showing him in red with the sack over his shoulder. Certainly, Coca Cola has solidified the modern image with their ad campaign though starting in 1931. Src

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[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 58 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 41 points 1 month ago

Yea, Santa is the more secular icon. There are even Christians that take issue with the Santa character (which is a combination of "Pagan" and Christian mythos). I put Pagan in quotes, as that's a Christian term for certain non-Christian beliefs.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Santa is a stand-in for Jesus... for children. They're both magical beings that can perform miracles and have similar methods: Both Santa and Jesus have naughty lists and forms of punishment that come later; much later (both are equivalent lengths of time to a child though 🤣). Both bring "gifts". Both have traditional appearances. Both have followers that wear silly hats and strange clothes. But most importantly...

Both are imaginary.

If you believe in Santa as an adult you're ridiculed. If you believe in Jesus as an adult you're just labeled, "Christian". Yet the fact that nearly every child eventually finds out Santa isn't real is quite disturbing to a lot of Christians. After all, if they could stop believing in Santa--who is so similar to Jesus in every way--then they could stop believing in Jesus.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You have to start off believing the little lies like the Hogfather before you can believe in the big lies like justice

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[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Santa is based on Saint Nicholas of Myra, so he definitely has something to do with Christianity.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

"Based on" and what people associate with now are vastly different. Most people don't even know if Saint Nick is based on a real person.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The modern depiction of Santa is based on Coca-Cola.

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[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?

You can have your opinion, but it's just that.

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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

This is nothing new, people expect religion not to be part of the "professional" environment. Dunno if VS code applies.

At the office (big corp) they don't call it the "Christmas Party", it's "the holiday party". They put lights and stuff up but no more Christmas trees/stars etc.. not everyone celebrates christmas so that's fine by me. If Microsoft wants to put a little santa hat on their product that's fine by me too. If I was using some service based in Mexico and they put a little hat on a product for cinco de mayo i wouldn't care. Christmas has other implications so it might be different, dunno

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[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

omg this is the person who deleted all their files on accident lol

edit: nevermind

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

ghost is just GitHub's way of saying deleted user.

[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

Lmao thanks for the info

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago

Santa is pagan, they put that dude on cereal boxes.

[–] BurningTurtle@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Guess loosing his project didn't deter him from using vscode.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I guess "ghost" is just placeholder for deleted accounts

In fact, in the issue they even refer to another username that doesn't exist anymore

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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

I hope they never walk past a church…

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

The 'ghost' of Christmas past.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The article they share in the issue to explain why Christmas is so offensive is absolutely wild. To quote:

Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday. Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices.

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/51928?lang=bi

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That analogy seems a better fit for a lot of Jewish holidays then Christmas. Passover is about the mass death of innocent Egyptian children. Chanukah is about a revolt against Greek rule where:

The Maccabees destroyed Greek altars in the villages, forcibly circumcised boys, burnt villages, and drove Hellenized Jews off their land.

Christmas is just about some baby being born ( on probably a different day)

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The "real meaning" of Christmas was getting the pagans on board with Christianity, don't let anyone lie to you otherwise lol.

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