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[–] mke@programming.dev 254 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

You could say Bluesky is... picking up Steam, eh?

Sorry, I have no new or interesting insights to offer, I'd hope most already get what's happening, anyway.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry about not having any insights, I still valve-ued the pun.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago

It's nice to see other people enjoy the pun. Would be shame for it to be left4dead

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[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And Valve and Steamdeck accounts.

[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Found Steamdeck, but I can't see a non parody Valve account - got a link/handle?

Edit: Valve Software, thank you.

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look at the boosted posts.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I will never not read "bluesky" as "bloo-skee"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Toss me a bluesky, there feller."

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mom!

Dad!

Bingo!!

Bluesky!!!

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[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago

It will always be "bluey-skibidi"

[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 38 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I wonder why is Mastodon is not appealing to Valve.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 83 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Reach?

If I wasn't on Lemmy, I wouldn't even know about Mastodon. It's not really something you hear of outside of the fediverse, in my experience. Meanwhile, BlueSky is gaining traction and talked about everywhere. Most people don't care that it's not exactly decentralized. Most of the things the users on the fediverse care about are not things the average, not-very-tech-saavy person cares about.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

Bluesky has a good new user experience, too. Even if you do know about Mastodon, making an account is like"Welcome - figure it out, lol"

I'd bet if they went the other way, they'd get significantly fewer people signing up for the service...Steam caters to both nerds and casuals alike

[–] Katzastrophe@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Mastodon is annoyingly gatekeepy too. They are super heavy on content warnings, and tend to not play nice when someone doesn't respect those unspoken rules.

Also, servers are much more likely to defederate with each other, due to what some perceive as "minor scuffles".

All in all I understand why people prefer Bluesky over Mastodon, it's simpler and the search function isn't borked to hell and back either. Blocking is also incredibly effective on Bluesky, if you block someone neither you nor they will ever see each other's content again.

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[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 64 points 3 weeks ago

Bluesky has 20x the user base (and the gap is growing wider every day).

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon, but it seems to be too confusing with all the servers. I don’t know why, but maybe because people have been conditioned by big tech to use centralised services. Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

Yep, I only 3 person IRL who know and uses Forum or Reddit.

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[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They could just put their own instance alive,
not very hard for them, after they shown us what they can do,
They can make the changes happen, they showed us already.

And thoses who wants the feed, just have to subscribe.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Valve is already under fire for Nazi content in fringe parts of Steam Community (warranted or not); I don’t think they want to tackle responsibility of moderating another large social network.

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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So how can I follow them from Mastodon?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is my question too. Search results turn up Bridgy Fed, but that seems to require the account you're interested in following to go through those steps, which none of the accounts I'm interested in are doing. At least the Threads POTUS account turned on federation so I can view it from Mastodon, but I suspect for the next four years, that account will be pretty quiet, and if it isn't, I'll probably want it to be.

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 34 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Is bluesky really eclipsing mastodon? jeeze

[–] viking@infosec.pub 24 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The signup process for mastodon sucks massively. Unless you're nerdy enough to sort it out, you'll give up then and there. Bluesky is very straightforward, while offering customization to those looking for a non-mainstream experience.

Same for Lemmy tbh.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In the near term of course bluesky will, it has hype, it has rich tech people on it, it has 10s of millions of investment it can throw at stuff.

This is not how Mastodon or the Fediverse grows, our growth is real, not based on hyped and marketing. People come and stay here because it is a nice place, not because it is a popular or exciting new hangout spot that all the rich cool people are going to.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

See y’all next time everyone gets surprised and upset when their centralized social media gets bought by a conservative sycophant.

Did they not learn a damn thing?

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[–] Buelldozer 6 points 3 weeks ago

Two days ago BlueSky was adding more users in an hour than Mastodon was per week.

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's great, I suppose less concentration to a single platform is a better direction.

Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky? I would imagine whatever ills plague Twitter would also eventually come to Bluesky, because people are there. And people are people. We don't seem to have a solution to the problem - which is a specific subset of people intent on harm, and allowing them direct and wholesale access to the social fabric.

So easy nowadays to fabricate rage-inducing and follower-generating bait. No time for truth and no plan to really get there. How long before we see someone take a stab at a ministry of truth?

[–] karashta@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The block function is heavily used. Whole block lists get passed around quite frequently. I've never really seen much hate on there unless I'm clicking into something obviously heated politically. Other people may have other experiences, but the current culture there is to not engage the hate farmers and just block people instead

[–] radix@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Nuclear block plus a culture of not feeding the trolls means the only toxic accounts I've run across are just a day or two old. Block and move on. The experience can only be as negative as each user lets it be.

[–] static09@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

This has been my experience too. The community moderation tools on top of the tools available to moderate my own feed are leagues ahead of other platforms. Being able to temporarily block keywords feels really awesome in avoiding dumb shit that can blast through social media.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky?

Yes, but I think that's temporary. When you have tens of millions of users, that's inevitable. Right now a lot of people are on their honeymoon periods, but I already see sprouts of negative attitude.

[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Because people moved to bluesky and not to mastodon.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Twitter was bluesky before musk bought it, federation ensures that can't easily happen to mastodon.

That's it.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Cool. Now give me an argument why my mother would care about this fact.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

Billionares with mega yacht fleets are choosing bluesky over mastodon.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Like it or not, a regular person doesn't give two shits about that.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Centralized and private = enshitification

Self hosted and federated = not prone to enshitification

Idk how simple it has to be for people but clearly I'm over estimating people

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Okay. Now, explain the concept of enshitification. And do it using terms that regular folk won't find crass.

You know how conservatives live in this bubble where they don't even see their racism because it's so normalized? We're interacting within a bubble where everyone has a very high level of technical competence versus the average person, so we fail to understand just how tech illiterate others are.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not just tech illiterate but also advertising illiterate. The regular folks I know seem happy to wade through endless platform ads and influencer sales pitches. Enshittification can really be a slowly boiling frog type scenario.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 10 points 3 weeks ago
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