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Look at Deep Space 9 and literally anytime a starship is near it. The scale goes way out of whack.

Oh agreed but I think there's one major thing which is what really fucks up how your perceive it. There's nothing to compare it to.

When we see the ship it's typically just by itself flying through space where there's no comparison. Or it happens across a ship but same problem as the Enterprise so no reliable comparison. Orbiting a planet, surveying an asteroid, being yanked into a Pulsar, sitting in front of a Borg cube... All of these huge events have literally nothing reliable that humans are familiar with to compare it to. The closest you can say are the windows but the windows are such strange sizes for what we're used to that it doesn't help much.

Honestly the biggest 'events' that I can think of in Trek media that demonstrate the size of the ship are usually ones where the ship ends up on a planet. Generations crash land, Into Darkness crashland, Voyagers Blue Alert sequences, Discoverys crash land, etc. The only other one I can think of is from Picard Season 3. The Borg cube in Jupiters eye. That thing is fucking massive and the cube took up an enormous amount of space in it. That really shook the hell out of me in seeing how big that vessel was.

It's hard for people living on a planet to comprehend how huge space is.

Ever played Eve Online? The “Noob ship” you get free when yours goes boom is bigger than a fighter jet, the battleships (fairly big) are about 500 meters and the capital monstrosity stuff gets to a plainly overkill 17 kilometers. And in all of this? It’s hard to figure out the small ships actually need a crew and aren’t just the pilot inside

That's like, half of a half mile.

Thanks because this image still didn’t help. Most people don’t see container ships very often.

Yeah but youre also saying that the bridge of the enterprise was about the size of a container, which i am not sure is accurate.

TV adds 20 pounds.

A container ship's crew is 20-30 people, and that whole thing is mostly containers. I bet they'd fit.

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They sleep in hallways....

In Strange New Worlds everyone above Ensign apparently has their own studio apartment.

You'd be stacking people on one another for sure. However the tight quarters then gives creedence to stuff like Cerritos and Voyager not having thick enough walls/doors to dampen sound. Then Enterprise-D is a whole different beast and it makes no sense for the opposite reason. It's too damn big with not enough crew. You'd have people working in their own section never meeting another soul during their whole day.

But that brings me to something else (because I have severely unmedicated ADHD and I apologize). Picard Season 3 got rapped for having the Titans bridge be really dark all the time. The lighting of the whole ship was way darker. Surprisingly I actually liked that. It felt like they were on a submarine or some small contained vessel, just then against the harshness of what was outside. That submarine quality really should be used in more shows. I know TOS had random people walking around the corridors (like the famous example of a dude who was turning an invisible valve on a wall) but I like those tight spaces.

Oh and to prove the ADHD? The Crossfield class is 900m long. Roughly. I mean she's 2/3rds nacelle but still.

305m is 1000 feet. The USS ENTERPRISE was 342m or 1,123 feet.

A modern day FORD class carrier is 1092 ft or 333m.

For personnel comparison, ENTERPRISE held ~5000 people and a FORD class has between 4-5000 people.

The fact that NCC-1701 only had like 1000 people is...a big difference.

Star Trek: Evergreen

Even crazier, the Galaxy-class has the capacity to evacuate an additional 10,000+ humanoids.

When you watch videos like this, you realize that 1,000 is not that much against the actual size of the ship. The entire crew can comfortably gather in the main shuttlebay at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwx5uB0pyhQ