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Its amazing how much propaganda Americans are exposed to on a dailly basis.

Hollywood basically a propaganda machine that always paints the US as a superior power.

News agencies at all levels repeating the same stories from a predefined script.

The military is about 60/40 partisan. But beyond that they are also extremely pro Constitution. It's entirely possible that they agree mass deportations are necessary, but will not follow the illegal order to go round them up. There's not a whole lot of hardcore MAGA beyond the low ranks because Trump has spent the last 9 years insulting the military in every way he can. Including denying casualties and stealing school funding for military kids. No amount of Fox News allows the combat arms community to forget stuff like that.

The very idea that the military is all die hard Republican is a Fox News myth.

There will certainly be commanders who resist if they think it's unlawful. We may just need to wait to really see. I hope there will be resistance.

A military without sufficient officer cooperation is incapable of anything beyond banditry

For someone that likes their world history, you really haven't learned much from US history.

To be a little fair, the military is very competent when it wants to be. If the military was onboard with the plan then the most competence the Trump team would need would be to give them the order. They'd start cordon and searches on the daily.

The military isn't on board though.

There won’t be a mass deportation. There might be an attempt at a mass deportation, but there’s no way a bunch of guys who can’t figure out how to book a room at the Four Seasons are gonna figure out all the problems. There’s just not the resources or other places to detain, move, and deposit that many people.

You are right, and it's not like there isn't historical precedent showing them that deportation is just not a workable final solution for what they are trying to do. When they figure that out, they'll probably make the same choice the other guys did.

Its actually really easy to deport a ton of people if you have guns and don't care if you are accidentally deporting the wrong people

If I was a fascist looking to carry out mass deportations I would probably just give federal badges to young veterans and police officers willing to do so. I get mass deportations with no resistance in the ranks and a powerful paramilitary force I can deploy to squash protests after my secret police of convicted white supremacists infiltrated them and caused violence.

Sure it might take a few months to setup and a few years to really get going but it will be faster than trying to burn through enough officers to get an entire chain of command willing to follow illegal orders.

Yep, all in. I feel there should be freedom of movement. I am in the minority perhaps. Most people want “reasonable restrictions”. In my experience this always raised my grocery prices and reduced my friends.

I think most people really don’t care one way or the other. Some people want all them far away, but here in Texas this is normally older anglos who yearn for yesterday and are scared about Spanish. But even most of those don’t have too strong feelings about it

Like trans rights, these are all blown out of proportion on national tv and newspapers. Most people really don’t care here

Not at a military level, no. Law enforcement is more than adequately equipped to handle it.

I’ve got to be honest. It’s a non issue for me. I can’t figure out why people always get so pissed off about it, or why those people are usually the least likely to have interacted with an immigrant (legal or otherwise). Seriously, what do they care? I don’t think governments have any right to disrupt the natural flow of people from one place to another.

I mean maybe not the worst but pretty fucking bad I’d say. Look at Egypt. Just because your enemy is in power doesn’t mean a military junta would be better.