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Don't think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.

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[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

earlier than initially projected

There's that phrase again. If only someone had warned us loudly and repeatedly.

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a finn, I can live with -40 °C winters, let them come. At least the invading russians will drop dead like flies in the winter. Again.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

as a Canadian, I agree totally. -40 is wayyyy more tolerable than +40. I'll take Hoth over Tatooine any fucking day of the week

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

As someone who whe experienced both-ish, I tend to agree. There is a point where you just get sick when it's too hot and humid and it's way worse than being cold. Your system just shuts down and you feel so bad, and if you don't get away well you die.

That said, -35° is the coldest I have lived through and without proper clothing it's not funny being outside! But it beats dying lol.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We need to be coordinating human effort across the globe on this above all else. China’s the only one taking it seriously right now.

The people defending the US tariffs on imports of Chinese solar panels are engaging in straight up climate change denial. We don’t have time for industry protectionism. Once the currents collapse, food chain collapse will follow shortly.

China is better in implementing countermeasures than especially the USA (also looking to the dark future ahead) but if they would take it seriously they would need to do quit a bit more especially driving something like a global CO2-tax, but AFAIK they were the ones blocking such measures (not that other nations are much better). THIS would be effective.

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

Summer homes in Europe go up in value. A new market for winter apparel opens too. Just think to the potential market growth. This is going to make a few shrewd entrepreneurs very wealthy. The planet will suffer, but man think of the money.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 89 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Earth will survive and the humans will get what they deserve.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Millions of species will go down with us, some already have been relagated to extinction by our actions.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Basically it's too late to stop the process. Even if we switched to renewables entirely, there will be a lag. That lag is now in a positive feedback loop.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 131 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah like the science community was saying 10-15 years ago.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I remember some of the early research showing this when I was in college in the late 90s/early 00s. It's mostly following the worst-case scenario models from the time, except 50 - 80 years ahead of schedule.

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[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If only we knew about this 50 years ago, surely we would have done something!

Big Oil: side eye Muppet meme

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact: They knew since the 1950s and have been lying about it for over 70 YEARS!

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[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I gotta stop using chrome on my phone 😔

[–] styxem@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Mildly fitting though. "Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products."

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products

If there is a better epitaph for Humanity, I have not heard it.

Can we Laser etch this quote onto the moon's surface before the last human dies please?

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[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Firefox mobile supports ublock origin

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[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

B-but the oil lobbyists at COP told me amoc won't be affected

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.

Now, I'm not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.

What I'm saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Humanity is the only species capable of the arrogance required to believe we deserve to endure. Our survival instincts are ultimately self-defeating because we refuse to evolve socially. Instead we make wars and loot resources, rinse and repeat.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Right. We survived the ice age with stone age tech.

Not saying that this makes any of this OK but resilience is absolutely one of humanities highest spec traits.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When food runs out for even a portion of those 8 billion, results are gonna be nasty.

It's hard to talk about climate initiatives when 1/3 of the planet is shooting eatch other. In worst case with nukes.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy”

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

So, what does this all mean for us? It means we have even less time to get our act together. Reducing emissions isn’t just a good idea — it’s crucial.

I don't think this will motivate countries to dramatically increase emissions reduction efforts, but I think it will motivate countries to begin geoengineering. Geoengineering is cheaper and easier than rapid emissions reduction, and the results are more immediate. Yes, it doesn't solve the core problem, which is the concentration of GHGs in the atmosphere, but it treats the symptom, albeit temporarily. Why put a lot of time, money, and effort into fixing the core problem when you can spend comparatively less time, money, and effort just treating the symptom? Then you can just pretend the core problem doesn't exist and go about business as usual.

Edit: sorry, I should have added the /s.

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