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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago (3 children)

Biden did more to help the working class than any president in my lifetime. People are too stupid or don't pay enough attention to realize it.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 minutes ago (2 children)

Nope. He can do whatever and inflation erases all that and then some.

Take your statistics home and use them to line your hamster cage.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Biden’s labor report card: Historian gives ‘Union Joe’ a higher grade than any president since FDR

https://www.govexec.com/management/2024/05/bidens-labor-report-card-historian-gives-union-joe-higher-grade-any-president-fdr/397002/

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the inflation that started because of the pandemic, worldwide, all Bidens fault. Good job, you solved inflation!

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

If that was the case, address it. Somehow Biden et.al., thought ignoring it was fine and the people would understand.

That turned out to be not the case.

  • Smart=knowing what caused it.
  • Dumb=not knowing how to react.
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 minutes ago

biden is extremely popular among blue collar workers, he really has done a lot. As well as a number of things for veterans as well.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 2 points 37 minutes ago (2 children)

What has he done for the working class?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 minutes ago

the IRA includes long term tax benefits for basically everybody, most impact-fully, people in the lower income brackets. Both the CHIPS act and infra bill have provided for a lot of jobs. He didn't kill oil, like trump seems to pretend happened. Im sure there are a number of other things i'm missing as well. Biden was an absolute legislation machine.

Notably, the economy is doing very well right now. Granted the perception tends to lag, that's natural.

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 0 points 20 minutes ago

From a 2 second google search: Biden's policies that have helped the working class include the American Rescue Plan, which provided direct financial aid and extended unemployment benefits, and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which aims to create good-paying jobs. Additionally, efforts to strengthen unions and raise the minimum wage have also supported working-class Americans.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans: Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, kill all social programs, raise taxes on the 99%, kill public infrastructure, and lastly go fuck yourself (Republican voter base proceeds to cheer)

Democrats: Uhhhhh.... Tax cuts for small buisnesses anyone? Oh wait the republicans are calling us communist for doing that. Well if we just compromise with them and allow sooome fascism we'll be able to get some of our agenda across as well. (Leftists proceed to boo the Dems for being Fascism Lite™)

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

can i get an example of the "some" fascism?

[–] Wisely@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Republicans: No screw you

Democrats: Maybe if not too much effort

If you are one of the groups of people Republicans are targeting though, it's a huge difference. At least they won't utterly devastate and wreck your life because of your demographic.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 78 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (12 children)

From an outsider perspective, the Dems may be hopeless neoliberals, but isn't it more:

R: hehe sure we will hehehe

D: here's a set of policies that should improve things

Voters: too complicated, just say yes.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No.

R: exterminate the brutes! Send the unwomen to the camps! Family and prosperity!

D: we must compromise with our co-workers across the aisle, so this system can keep serving the aristocracy. I propose we only increase the einsatzgrupen budget by 20% this year; we aren't hitting recruiting quotas, and we'd gave to raise taxes for my republican counterpart's proposal of 3000%.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

It's more like the Republicans promise the moon even if they intend to shove the sun up your ass, while the Dems only promise what they think that they can accomplish, and often even that gets trampled by Republicans willing to break the government just to keep the Dems from doing anything.

The last time we had a Democrat who made big promises and ran on a campaign of hope and progress, we had the largest voter turnout ever recorded in the history of the country at that time. And then an even larger turnout for his second election. Cut to 2020, and we elected the VP of that guy largely on his relation to that former President and because he wasn't the other guy, and in this past election we saw several million less voters than 2020 with notable drops in support in swing states amongst Democrats and unaffiliated voters after right wing politicians voiced their support for Kamala.

There's also the issue to be had with the bias of media in the country and how that affects public perception. I still remember in 2016 when the news channels aired video of Trump's empty podium for an hour instead of Bernie Sanders' speech.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 minutes ago

and in this past election we saw several million less voters than 2020 with notable drops in support in swing states amongst Democrats and unaffiliated voters after right wing politicians voiced their support for Kamala.

to be clear, this was most likely a fluke of the post covid times, this was a global phenomenon. Had covid not happened, there is a very high likelihood that kamala would've won.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 minutes ago

We can't DOOOOOO anything because they're meaner and stronger than we are! Even when they're in the minority!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

The time before that when we had a Democrat who made big promises and ran on a campaign of hope and progress he got re-elected three times and they had to make an amendment to stop it from happening again.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 30 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Dems proposals are crumbs on what we should have. Universal health and education for example, never make it out of the primaries. Very few Democrats, really the ones that are Democrats so they don't have to start a Social Democrat party, espouse that stuff. The rest of the party thinks a minimum wage increase will be enough and they can't even get that done.

In reality we need real cost of living counterweights. Government run grocery stores and basic retail. Private businesses literally told everyone that abnormal inflation after the pandemic was just them price gouging. And we're supposed to take a single policy that would have been good in 2005 as proof Democrats "get it"?

Fuck no.

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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 33 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Tweeted by someone that voted against ranked choice voting lol

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 hours ago (40 children)

Cheap #bothSides nonsense.

You mean

GqP: lol no plebe

Dems: if we can get the ability, that's our goal. Aw fuck we've been cockblocked by the senate again. Sorry.

[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

It doesn't seem weird to you that there's always some reason a Democrat prevents Democrats from accomplishing things when they have a majority? It's been like two decades of this, bud. There's always some reason for them not to fix anything.

I'll vote Democrat every time because, although they barely do anything, at least they won't actively make things worse. That choice fucking sucks though, so quit acting like Democrats aren't trash. They are trash and the only reason to vote for them is because the other side is taking policy advice from literal Nazis.

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