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Hamas published yesterday an 18-minute long pre-recorded press conference in English about their side of the story. This has received zero media attention anywhere in the western press. (Twitter) (twitter.com)

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Hamas published yesterday an 18-minute long pre-recorded press conference in English about their side of the story.

This has received zero media attention anywhere in the western press.

So in the interest of full transparency, here is the entire press conference.

Watch the video through the link above.

Or just click here.

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[–] Swinging6917@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Of course it didn't. The Western press is working overtime to create manufactured consent for the genocide of Palestinians.

[–] vaguevoid@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

libs are acting like israel is an innocent victim of a war by hamas

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I despise how gullible they are, every single time.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Eyyup...

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago

Completely reasonable statements, you won't see this anywhere in mainstream media because it completely debunks their narrative that they are a bunch of savages.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

direct link to video here

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

G R A I N

E A T E R

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Thanks!

[–] Mana@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can someone download this and put it somewhere I can download it so that I can send this to my family who only watches US media, plz?

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

You can download it from the Twitter link, I believe.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

you can download it through Twitter, here's a direct link

[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is that the one where they say Israel was planning to attack anyway and it was a preemptive strike from Hamas?

[+] persolb@lemmy.ml -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I don’t watch the news and only periodically see stuff like this. I’m using Wikipedia as my main reference to look at this; searching to just find a story confirming what’s on Wikipedia.

It looks like Hamas and cohorts crossed the border and killed hundreds of people. Back in Palestine, they are using otherwise occupied buildings as places to attack from.

I’m not sure what people expect Israel to do in this situation. If the ‘rule’ is to never attack back at someone using innocent human shields, the only people left alive will be those willing to use human shields.

[–] die_livster@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 years ago

history began on 7th october 2023

[+] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] persolb@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks. The fundamental point seems to be that the people who did the attacks on Israel a few days ago basically see themselves as fighting occupation against a genocidal army.

I asked this same question somewhere else and got nearly the opposite response. Searching their keywords also provide what appear to be valid links and videos.

I sincerely appreciate you providing the links.. but I think this is just a topic I’m going to stay mostly uneducated on beyond “this sucks for all the innocent people there.” Near as I can tell I could find horrible things on both sides of the story… will only be scratching the surface… and my final belief will just be based on what piece of the surface I scratch.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

basically see themselves as fighting occupation against a genocidal army.

That's because they literally are.

I’m going to stay mostly uneducated on beyond “this sucks for all the innocent people there.”

Imagine not knowing anything about something, talking out of your ass about it and then when given the opportunity to learn, choosing to be willfully ignorant. This kind of behavior disgusts me.

[–] persolb@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, we’re all that way about most everything. There are literally an unlimited number of things to know about. I’d much rather recognize I’ ignorant in it and consciously decide which ones I’m going to continue to be ignorant on; when I can.

If there was a clear answer here, I’d have gotten similar stories/perspectives from my queries. Maybe one with better trustworthy references. Instead I got two versions of history which each neglect certain parts, both of which appear to be factually correct, and both of which try to make the other side look like monsters. Since I am going to die one day, without ever being able to impact this situation, it is reasonable to bow out.

(As an example of where this has worked before, similar prior questions on things UBI, Georgian tax, and Taiwan have changed my mind.)

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Well, we’re all that way about most everything...

Yeah, no. Speak for yourself. It's just an excuse to be ignorant.

If there was a clear answer here...

There are actually pretty clear answers to "what caused the Israeli-Palestinian conflict", but you've already demonstrated that you're unwilling to learn about it, despite efforts from other comrades who have more patience than I.

Since I am going to die one day, without ever being able to impact this situation, it is reasonable to bow out.

Another bullshit cop out excuse to be ignorant. Must be nice to be that privileged to live like this.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Here's a primer.

[–] persolb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the snarkless reply/link. It really is appreciated.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

rat-salute-2

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No investigation, no right to speak.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

To make this explicit: ask questions that can help you investigate if you have not, e.g. "Did I understand this correctly or am I misunderstanding something important?"