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Like, for example, Stalin's resignation attempts. When i bring this up in conversation, they usually make it out to be like some evil ploy. They act as if everyone who voted 'yes' during his resignation attempts had be taken out back and shot, even before the session had ended, maybe. And of course every time a positive account of Soviet life/leadership was given to a foreign journalist, an NKVD sniper was perched on a nearby rooftop ready to shoot in case the person said anything wrong.

I've never read Capitalist Realism, but maybe this has something to do with it? Why do these people assume everything was evil and fake in the USSR?

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

Why do these people assume everything was evil and fake in the USSR?

I mean, everything is evil and fake in the USA so if the USSR was going to be a credible enemy the propaganda had to go to 11

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

This kind of goes back to the same ideological framework that produced the drivel that is authoritarianism and totalitarianism as concepts, there's an idea that within the enemy is an infinitely cunning and completely unprincipled hunger for power.

So all actions are either direct plots or roundabout smokescreens for the direct plots. Anything mundane is a grand conspiracy of normalization for example.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Part-"unfalsifiable orthodoxy" parenti-hands that western liberal societal superstructure upholds from capitalist interest

Part-"acknowledgment that they are eagerly wielding the accusation like a club {because} Westerners want to believe that other places are worse off, " so that labor-aristocrats in the Global North don't feel as bad about what their material position entails

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

McCarthyism.

[–] refolde@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

It's projection. It's a well known fact that Europe, the United States, and neoliberal ideology are themselves grand evil conspiracies plotting to enslave the world and turn it into their playground forever.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Can you blame them? All these people know is Harry Potter.

Their brains are mush.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Everything about the US is a grand evil conspiracy. It is all we know

[–] miz@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

death to america