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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

The people who hold the power to change this: porky-happy

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An unending maelstrom of human anguish and death, orchestrated solely to fuel the insatiable greed of a handful of the most nightmarishly evil human beings to ever exist: okay

One nightmarishly evil human being getting blasted: not okay

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

i love living in a society structured around maximizing ~~profit~~ quantified human misery

Death to America

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Failed state

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

To my European mind, 50K is a very high salary

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Salary only has meaning when contextualized against the cost of living. As a European, you don't worry about going bankrupt and ending up on the street if you get sick, you likely enjoy functional public transit, and so on.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

you don't worry about going bankrupt and ending up on the street if you get sick

in ireland a lot of people do. contradictions around this stuff are probably worse here than anywhere else in western europe tho

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't realize this wasn't a uniquely American type of hell.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah we are basically at the forefront of EU neoliberal hell it's still much better in some other states so I understand the impression but it's really really bad here.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All the western countries are ultimately headed in the same direction, it's just the rate of descent that's different.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

for sure. we've just been ruled by compradors to empire since gaining "independence" 100 or so years ago, so we're total vassals to the US and carved out by yankee and british capital sadly

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I make barely 13k net salary in :estonia-flag-burning: and probably live better than most AmeriKKKans making up to 70k

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I make just under $80k in a small american town, probably in the top 10% of workers here, and I'm still paycheck to paycheck.

Food for 3 people comes out to like $2500/month, rent is $2000/month, taxes are $1600/month, health insurance is $400/month with about $50-100 out of pocket for meds. More of someone has to go to the ER or Urgent Care. Rest of it (~$200) goes to general expense, and we frequently have to dip into credit.

Also that $400 health insurance doesn't even cover doctors visits and if I bring it up, the price skyrockets from $50 to $250 because thats what BCBS says it's worth. Gotta hit that $8000/year deductible before any of that money I pay in can even be used.

And no I'm not in some mansion or anything, I'm in a 110 year old house with 2 bedrooms and a rotted deck that the landlord refuses to fix. Most of the other houses here are occupied by elderly people who are paying $200-$300/month for their mortgage or renters living 2 to a room spending $1800-$2000/month to a landlord that bought the house after the old person that lived in it died.

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I was chocked as well. But it could be that they count "household" income (average household is like 2+ people I think).

But also when you factor in that all burgers, even the poor, must have a shitty expensive car to go anywhere. They need health insurance that alone probably cost more than the total income tax for most of Europeans, and even then it doesn't actually cover the medical expenses. Then, as I understand it, they don't really have a pension system, so all those "savings" are actually for not starving to death when they get old. Then there's school, kinder-garden and no paid vacation, so you need to save for that as well.

Yankees basically pay over 70% tax on income if you add up all the "hidden costs" when you sigh up for American Inc subscription. But hey, you get to live in a cardbord box with a square patch of grass outside.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cost of living. Problem is when you live in shithole area like Poland where the costs of living are 1/2 of German ones but your wage is 1/5

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yikes, is it that bad these days? I haven't been for years, but when I visited in the 00's things still cost like 10% of what they did in western Europe

Depend where, worst is in big cities, but since 2020 it's been going worse pretty fast everywhere. Though to be fair, it's been going worse in Germany too.