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Supreme Court to Hear Challenge to California Tailpipe Emissions Limits

The justices agreed to decide whether industry groups have suffered the sort of injury that gave them standing to sue over an unusual waiver.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

What an awkwardly worded headline

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This shouldn’t require federal approval at all.

[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure the party of states rights will take issue with it in a few months.....

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not really a state rights thing though: my state is not allowed to do something like that on its own

This is a federal thing that there’s a specific exception for California and the rest of us can only follow them or stick to federal standards

Articles keep linking this back to the clean air act but I don’t remember reading where the exception is. If it’s in the clean air act, I don’t see how Trump can change that: it has to be Congress. If it’s an EPA regulation or executive exception, that’s another story, but hopefully would at least be time consuming

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, what is “the federal thing” regarding CA banning gas cars?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s not states rights, but a federal law, regulation, or whatever the eff it is. Federal govt says you must follow epa, or carb. No other options

https://theconversation.com/why-california-gets-to-write-its-own-auto-emissions-standards-5-questions-answered-94379

Clean Air Act empowers the EPA to regulate air pollution from motor vehicles. To promote uniformity, the law generally bars states from regulating car emissions.

the Clean Air Act …. requires the EPA to grant California a waiver so it can continue to apply its own regulations

Other states can’t set their own standards, but they can opt to follow California’s motor vehicle emission regulations

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Eat shit, other states. We’re dissuading ICE because it’s polluting Los Angeles. If your state doesn’t buy enough ICE to make it worthwhile that’s a “you” problem.

[–] tal 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As I recall from past reading, California was just going to prohibit sale of new non-EVs in California. If you want an ICE or hybrid vehicle, you can just buy it from an out-of-state dealer, even after 2035.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

California has a long history of barring registration of vehicles which do not meet its pollution standards. You'd need to not just buy out of states but fraudulently register it as if you resided in another state. Billionaires do this with eigth homes for their personal race cars, but basically nobody else does.

[–] tal 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

goes to look

Ah, apparently it only is permitted if a vehicle has at least 7500 miles on it. So can't do it with a new vehicle.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I don't think anyone asked Biden administration their opinion though