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To be clear, these are the guys who joined Al Nusra (which later rebranded to HTS) and allied with ISIS.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago

I wish them well in their struggle against Winnie The Pooh

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Holy shit I was not expecting .world to support a group of religious fundamentalists that regularly abducts, massacres, tortures, and/or beheads civilians, including children.

When America, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, really everyone *except *Israel all label a group a terrorist organization, they're probably not great.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Dont tell .ml users about this.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They'd just remove the post and ban you.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You know the guy who posted this news article is a .ml user, right?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But you haven't posted it to any .ml communities. Any reason for that?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It was posted there before it was posted here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6490864

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I literally got it from a .ml community.

Why do you think .ml mods would ban people for posting a news article detailing US-backed terrorists pledging to go after another one of the US's adversaries next?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You seem to be confused. We’re very aware of the CIA-backed terrorists. https://lemmy.ml/post/22871140/15210850

Are people who commit domestic terrorist attacks political prisoners? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China

  • 5 February 1992: Two buses exploded in Urumqi, resulting in at least 3 deaths, and 23 injured.
  • 27 February 1997: Bombs detonated on three buses in Urumqi, leaving nine dead and 68 seriously wounded. The Uyghur Liberation Party claims responsibility for the bombings.
  • 19 August 1997: Two gunmen shot into a crowd after attempting to rob shopkeepers in Urumqi, killing 7 people and hospitalizing 11.
  • 1 October 1997: Uyghur separatists detonate a bomb in Kutyun, killing 22 people.
  • February – April 1998: A series of six explosions occurred in February and March aimed at economic and industrial targets. The following month, authorities reported that bombs exploded at homes and offices of local communist party and public security agents.
  • 19 April 1998: A police officer and two separatist militants were killed in a shootout during a police siege of a separatist hideout. Another police officer was wounded and four separatists captured during the operation.
  • 25 June 1999: A bus is bombed by Uighur separatists, killing one and injuring 50
  • 4 August 2008: ETIM militants reportedly drove a truck into a group of approximately 70 jogging policemen. According to official Chinese media accounts, they then got out of the truck wielding machetes, and lobbed grenades at the officers, killing 16 people. Police investigators recovered explosives as well as a homemade firearm.
  • 10 August 2008: Xinhua reported that seven men armed with homemade explosives reportedly drove taxis into government buildings, in Kuqa, Xinjiang, injuring at least two police officers and a security guard. Five of the assailants were shot and killed. The attacks began at 2:30 am when five assailants drove taxis into the local public security and industry and commerce buildings. The Communist Party chief in Xinjiang condemned the attack as an act of terrorism, and suspected the ETIM was responsible.
  • 12 August 2008: Chinese media reported that three security officers were killed in a stabbing incident in Yamanya, near Kashgar in Xinjiang. The report did not specify what the attacker's affiliations were.
  • 5 July 2009: A series of violent riots over several days broke out on 5 July 2009 in Ürümqi, the capital city of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, in northwestern China. The first day's rioting, which involved at least 1,000 Uyghurs, began as a protest, but escalated into violent attacks that mainly targeted Han people. According to Chinese state media, a total of 197 people died, most of whom were Han people or non-Muslim minorities, with 1,721 others injured and many vehicles and buildings destroyed.
  • 19 August 2010: According to Chinese media reports, six ethnic Uyghur men were allegedly involved in loading a vehicle with explosives and driving into a group of security officers at a highway intersection near Aksu, Xinjiang. Seven people, including two attackers, were killed, according to police
  • 18 July 2011: Chinese media reported that 18 people died when 18 young Uyghur men stormed a police station in the city of Hotan. The men stabbed a security guard and two female hostages, and killed another security guard with a bomb.
  • 30–31 July 2011: At least 18 people died in a series of alleged terrorist attacks in the city of Kashgar. According to state-run media accounts, the violence began when two Uyghur men hijacked a truck, ran it into a crowded street, and started stabbing people, killing six. On the second day, state media reported that a "group of armed terrorists" stormed a restaurant, killed the owner and a waiter, and set it ablaze. They then proceeded to indiscriminately kill four more civilians. The Turkistan Islamic Party later claimed responsibility for the attack.
  • 29 June 2012 Chinese official media reported that six men attempted to hijack Tianjin Airlines flight GS7554 from Hotan to Urumqi, Xinjiang. The men reportedly sought to gain access to cockpit ten minutes after takeoff, but were stopped by passengers and crew. A spokesperson for the Xinjiang government said the men were ethnic Uyghurs. Xinhua reported at least 10 passengers and crew were injured when six hijackers tried to take control of the aircraft.
  • 24 April 2013: It was an incident of ethnic clash that took place between Muslim Uyghur and Han Chinese community. As reported by BBC nearly 21 people were killed in the incident including 15 police officers and local government officials.
  • 30 April 2014: A knife attack and bombing occurred in the Chinese city of Ürümqi, the capital of China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region. The attack left three people dead and seventy-nine others injured.
  • 22 May 2014: Two sport utility vehicles (SUVs) carrying five assailants were driven into a busy street market in Ürümqi. Up to a dozen explosives were thrown at shoppers from the windows of the SUVs. The SUVs crashed into shoppers then collided with each other and exploded. 43 people were killed, including 4 of the assailants, and more than 90 wounded.
  • 28 November 2014: Militants with knives and explosives attacked civilians, 15 dead and 14 injured. 14 of the 15 deaths were attackers.
  • 6 March 2015: Three ethnic Uyghur assailants with long knives attacked civilians at Guangzhou train station, 13 injured.
  • 24 June 2015: Group killed several police with knives and bombs at traffic checkpoint before 15 suspects died in armed response
  • 18 September 2015: An unidentified group of knife-wielding men attacked off-duty workers at a coalmine, killing 50, among them 5 police officers
  • 29 December 2016: Islamic militants drove a vehicle into a yard at the county Communist party offices and set off a bomb but were all shot dead. Three people were wounded and one other died.
[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isnt lemmy banned in china?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Lemmy.ml is banned, lemmy.world is not

Posting from Beijing

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Tankies can come out and bitch now

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I would think the only way they could fight China effectively is by being the extremists that these militants aligned with. Which unfortunately means the CCP is going to crack down harder on anyone remotely affiliated :/

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

Angry Chihuahua vibes.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 days ago

huge W for them. Free your brothers and sisters.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They might want to start with Israel, but props to them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Israel is not the one committing genocide against the Uyghurs. China is. So they might want to start with the people committing genocide against them.

I swear, people think there's only one genocide going on or that it's the only one that matters or something...

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's at least 6 active genocides happening right now but the hypocrisy of Jews doing one really puts it at the forefront.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

China was the victim of a genocidal Japanese regime. So I would say that's just as hypocritical. There were just too many Chinese to decimate as thoroughly.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

yeah a whole generation didn't grow up watching that one on Discovery channel though

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think you'll find Chinese schools do not mince words about what happened after the Japanese invaded Manchuria.

I'm sorry, you're not going to win this "Israelis are the bigger hypocrites" thing. They're both hypocrites who are committing genocide after being victims of a genocide in living memory.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you thought there was a win condition? hold up

people think there's only one genocide going on

Israel is getting all the media coverage. That's it, that's the entire reason.

The average person doesn't know South Sudan is a bad place to be a Nuer because no one told them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

You tried to argue that Israelis are the bigger hypocrites because somehow Israelis know more about the genocide that Jews in Europe went through than Chinese people do about what the Chinese went through in China at the exact same time when that isn't the case. The Israelis and the Chinese are both fully aware that their people suffered a genocide in the 1930s and 1940s.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the average person unless you mean the average Chinese person or the average Israeli, in which case, my point stands. They are equally hypocritical and equally know why.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yes it did, literally every Chinese person has to learn it in history class.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They were supported by Israel due to Assad's support for Palestine.

Hence why HTS has ordered Palestinian organizations that Assad was harboring to disarm.

I don't expect much from liberals, but I am still shocked how quickly yall came around to supporting the psychotically evil faction Israel and Turkey support for their use against Palestine's ally, Assad, and Turkey's enemy, the Kurds.

Even in the 2010s, supporting ISIS and their allies even though they opposed Assad was beyond the pale.