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thereβs more than shown here and itβs more than just these users too π
if you find the thread donβt piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe donβt bring it back here i donβt want 400 notifications of entry level βis almond milk milkβ vegan discourse
"I've been sober all day." is my new comeback when someone insults my intelligence in an argument.
I had to ban someone because they were arguing about whether tumblr prose about physics and love was scientifically rigorous and after arguing for a chain of like 20 comments they reported the other person and started calling me names when I told them the entire argument was dumb. They then took it to the instances' main / meta forum to publically complain about and got pretty universally torn apart by both the instance moderators and several fascinated rubberneckers. They picked a molehill and just absolutely fought to the death on it for some inscrutable reason.
I've mentioned it a couple times in various meta comments on the topic of moderation less because it particularly bothers me but mostly just because it is sort of living rent free in my head in the same way as when you see someone eating an entire lobster dinner complete with metal cutlery and a cloth napkin at the bus stop. Just... huh. That person is well and truly marching to the beat of their own drum and it certainly seems to be bringing them joy but... huh.
The expression on that dude's face was very reminiscent of my face when trying to read through the original offending comment chain.
Bringing this full circle, it reminds me of a time I saw an entire long Reddit chain nuked by a mod who was astounded that people indulged the "Europeans never ate beans before Columbus and if you call that thing that originally came from Eurasia a bean, you're wrong" guy for so long.
It's times like these that remind me I don't get paid for this shit.
Was gonna make a blizzard joke here, but this person is so intellectual that they wouldn't get the low-grade humor, or how milk production before markets only works if everyone works a single farm, and cannot work if the population is scaled up.
Transcribing the conversation here:
Recessa, β4 β1: That's completely idiotic, milk exist because there's demand for it.
commie, β1 β4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it's production?
friendlymessage, β3 β2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?
commie, β1 β3: do you think there's a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?
friendlymessage, β3: Are you fucking with me?
commie, β2 β3: no. I'm trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.
friendlymessage, β2 β1: Yeah, but they're not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there's no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don't have infinite resources
commie, β2 β2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.
friendlymessage, β3 β1: That... must be the dumbest discussion I've had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you're sober
commie, β1 β1: I've been sober all day.
friendlymessage, β1: Okay, whatever you say
commie, β1 β2: everything I've said is true. you're objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.
friendlymessage, β2: No, you're just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It's simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won't consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won't produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won't elaborate what your actual point is anyway.
Also, not that it matters, but you're arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.
There's a common misunderstanding among a lot of .ml folks that markets are a capitalist thing and if you just don't call them that then they don't exist.
