Does Musk actually care about Twitter any more?
It's served its purpose. It won the election for Trump. Musk will probably just focus on being Trump's puppy and let Twitter slowly die out.
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2024
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Ok, can we puh-leese stop talking about corporate media siloses on the fediverse? I keep seeing Elon's stupid mug plastered all over the media, can Lemmy be the exception, pretty please?
Content filters! I've got them for Trump, Elon, "Slammed", "Dragged", "Blasted" and the question mark, because news headlines in the form of questions can almost always be answered with the word "no" and are not worth my time.
We can stop talking about after we've destroyed it
It's quite ironic that for a lot of people "destroying twitter" means spending half a day there, finding rage-inducing tweets and sharing them on other social media sites just so they can enjoy the free traffic and engagement. It would be nice if we could, you know, ignore it and let it die.
The Switzerland approach isn't going to work. It's datacenters must be rendered inoperable and disconnected from the grid and its billionaires made to flee to their bunkers.
I Set up the content filter with „Elon“ and „musk“ which significantly reduced it. Now it’s just posts like these that remain. Can’t recommend enough!
But then how am I supposed to find out about the latest manly cologne?
The only thing I wanna see is the ElonJet guy back in a large platform, so that everyone gets easy access to the muskrat's location. That gets him specially angry as we've seen many times
But if Elonjet is in Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/elonjet.net
I don't understand why they don't just put up an RSS feed on elonjet.net Why even use social media posts? They've got their own website.
Probably because nobody uses RSS. Or websites.
I identify with "old man yells at cloud" more and more every day...
I know, rite??
Social interactions.
Good! Let's work to keep the momentum going and encourage everyone you know to boycott Twitter/X. If you still use Twitter/X make a post saying you can find me on Lemmy/Bluesky/Mastodon or whatever website/app you choose to replace it.
Don't let Elon Musk control you and your country, stop Twitter/X now!
Elon is teasing about offering an email service on X... why would anybody give him access to all of your private information?
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I would say musk got out of it what he could. Even if it went bankrupt I think he still got his money worth as mad as this sounds.
He “lost” about 75% value of twitter, from $44bn to $10Bn Musk is worth ~$440Bn.
That’s like a normal person with $50k invested losing about $3500 on a stock. You’ll notice it. But it doesn’t change your day any.
(Dunno about the math, might be off)
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It'll take a while, but I do believe we're watching the downfall of Twitter.
And I suspect, now that Bluesky is the clear successor to Twitter, the process will only accelerate.
Give it 6 months and then musky's well funded administration will find a way to make bluesky feel the legal crunch
They can just shift countries. 32% of Bluesky users are from Brazil, ~ 7% from Japan, ~ 4% from the UK and 2% from Germany.
Likely there will be an exodus of web services that don't want to trade the further loss of Article 230 and the requirement of Christofascist cemsorship for even less taxes and zero worker protections.
Truth social hasn’t failed yet, it could lose money and it would just be a propaganda service that costs money instead of making money.
It’s not going to have ~~funding~~ bribing problems until Trump is out of office.
MySpace didn’t die overnight; didn’t it take like 8 years for Facebook to overtake it? Anecdotally in my group of friends, the big exodus from MySpace to Facebook took like 2 years from ‘08-‘10
It just occurred to me that the reason I don't remember those events, and have no basis to compare, because I had already left the platforms. Same for Digg.
I deleted my personal and business Twitter account the day Musk took over.
Could bluesky have won over Mastodon because of the fediverse barrier where people doesn't know which server to choose?
Bluesky is being run by a funded professional startup team and is aimed at the masses. Mastodon is run by activists and software devs and brings in other like minded folks.
Bluesky has an advertising budget. Bluesky has an entire team just working on User Interface.
The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.
"It's not my job to contribute to a community project" is just another way to say "it's not my job to make the world a better place."
It's generally easier for the layperson to pay a gym membership than it is to have the upfront cost of a barbell set and coordinating a schedule with their neighbor who owns a treadmill.
I don't want to sound too pro-corporate, I just don't want to fault others when they fall for the veneer of a "cohesive product." It takes a lot of work to organize a community project and why it's so special when they do come together.
Mastodon is confusing as shit though. They could have made is not as confusing, but this is what happens when you get backend only developers designing the front end of a product.
The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.
It's not that deep.
People want to go where other people are. A tiny minority of them are even aware of the things that are influencing your decisions. Not a single moment is spent thinking about whether X or Y is more 'corporately controlled' before deciding to join a new platform.
Most importantly, Mastodon doesn't have the funding. It always astounds me how people miss that part.
Money lets you fix a lot of problems. Not all. But many.
Of course, it doesn't mean they'll succeed. Google+ had lots of money, too.
Ugh, Google+ was so much better than Facebook. The whole circles concept was a game changer for social media that no one else has really adopted in a meaningful way. Half the reason millennials began to leave Facebook was not wanting their parents seeing what they're posting, so being able to decide which group can see a particular post was an awesome idea.
Sadly it just never got the adoption
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Bluesky offers better access to the content people want with less effort. Mastodon was always going to lose that battle.
I use both. I've been on Mastodon for the better part of a year and only actively tried Bluesky the last couple months. My Bluesky feed is thriving, whereas Mastodon not so much. IMO this is due to Mastodon is missing the major quality of life features of Bluesky.
- Add lists
- Subscribable block lists
- Custom subscribable topic feeds
- Optional recommendation engine
These things make Bluesky very easy to get started with and more powerful even than Xitter was. It's simply a better product if you have any requirements other than federation. Getting a good feed up and running doesn't take more than an hour or two. Mastodon is a lot more work.
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That was part of the reason. I tried explaining Pixelfed to my photographer dad and he completely lost interest when I mentioned instances and equated them to e-mail providers. Non-technical people don't like having to understand a technical aspect, and the nature of federation can't be avoided.
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Keep in mind that these are the people who stayed on Twitter after it was infested by the musk. They're leaving because it's turned into a dogshit service, not because of any kind of moral stance. They won't choose one service over another because it's libre or decentralized or community-operated. They'll flock to one that has a low entry barrier and high population.
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Speaking of which: Bluesky is where the people are. The merits of a social media provider are worthless if it has a fraction of the population of a direct competitor.
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I think that's a good part of it, to be honest. Plus I think also helps that Bluesky's handles look visually less confusing and unusual than the conventional double @ sign for the fediverse
@user.bsky.social vs @user@bsky.social
Plus other things like having starter packs
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Yes you are right at this point!
Ahaha YES!
So unfortunate that it had to be this way though, Twitter was the perfect name for such a social media app.
Who cares...it's just changing one shitpile for the next soon-to-be shitpile. Bluesky will inevitably go down the shitter too once its users have enough inertia to keep them there as they squeeze them dry.
Twitter isn't falling due to not being open source, or not being decentralized, or any of the other reasons I've heard people advocate for mastodon.
People are leaving twitter because it has gone fully right wing in politics. Twitter will not "fail" in the traditional sense. Twitter will fall, but not fail.
Twitter will be the right wing conspiracy platform.
Bluesky will be what twitter was 5 years ago for the left wing.
Nothing else has changed. This isn't a rebellion against corporate social media. This isn't meant to be a fediverse uprising. None of that is happening. This is nothing more than Mary, and Beth who voted for Harris wanting to use twitter how they used to, without right wing agenda being added to their twitter feed. Which is exactly what bluesky is. A twitter clone without the racists.
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