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The Hamas attack that left Israeli-Canadian Netta Epstein dead was chronicled in his phone messages with his mother.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 58 points 11 months ago

Wow, what an honourable way to go if you must. He traded unlikely survival with certain death and saved his girlfriend in the process. I feel bad for the mom, but still I don't know how many would be as brave as Netta to do that, even if you had adrenaline going.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What a bad ass. "Oh shit we're all going to die!" "ME FIRST!"

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 69 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What a hero. He gave up almost any chance of survival to reduce shrapnel spread, which saved his girlfriend's life...

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

While not diminishing the heroism, laying atop a grenade might be among the least bad ways to go during the attack. One instant you're there pumped on hero juice, the next instant you're gone. No leftover brain activity to experience who knows what while actively dying.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When it happens to you, please let us know what your reaction was and who survived.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If I found myself in such situation I'd have zero balls or awareness to jump on a nade.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I'd probably grab the thing with my monkey reflexes and result in bringing it up for a better vantage point once it goes off.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've seen enough Ukranian drone drop videos with grenades landing on Russians to know that being on the receiving end is absolutely not immediately lights out.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] luky@infosec.pub 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago
[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 13 points 11 months ago

Those text messages.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 11 months ago

Good man, protecting those around him.🫑

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago

Senseless violence

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

PSA: Don't throw yourself on grenades. Lay flat on the ground with your legs facing the grenade.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Genuinely asking, how is that any better? And really, if you were trying to stop fragmentation from killing other people in a room wouldn't your actual core do a better job of that then your legs?

[–] SandroHc@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Different advice for different goals. If your goal is to survive, you want your vitals to be protected. If you want others to survive, might as well use your muscle and fat to absorb some of the kinetic energy.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 9 points 11 months ago

The idea is obviously for everyone to lay flat with their legs facing the grenade, not just one person. If there's just you and one other person just force them to the ground. If you live in a dangerous place explain it to them beforehand and maybe even practice.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

that then your legs

Well, not one THEN the other. It's a single blast and it's too quick to change positions.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

His goal wasnt to survive the blast, it was to protect the people around them so they could survive the blast.

Id love to a mark Rober on that. Will it actually stop fragments and enough of the shock wave or will they just go through you anyway?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good way to shred your legs and genitals

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Better than your chest and head.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Very tragic way to go out.