General community for news/discussion in the UK.
Less serious posts should go in !casualuk@feddit.uk or !andfinally@feddit.uk
More serious politics should go in !uk_politics@feddit.uk.
Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.
Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.
Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.
If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.
Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.
Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.
Support for rejoin can be as high as it wants to be. The bottom line is that Sir Keir has ruled it out. It's not happening. He doesn't want to lose Labour Red Wall votes.
I think people have to be realistic about these things. If they want to rejoin, vote for a party that will take us back in or at least are receptive of the idea of applying. That's not Labour yet people want to vote for them. Pick your priorities.
All well and good but with a FPTP system you cannot vote for what you want and expect to get it. If we had PR then that would be a different story.
Why Labour will never support pr.
As far as I am concerned, the next GE will be the last time I vote Labour unless they announce PR as part of their manifesto. I can understand Starmer dodging on this next innings, but failing adding it to the next GE after would just mean we are on a circle jerk. I still remember Blair said he would move to PR when he was in office.
“Sir”
I am pro rejoin, but calling Keir sir in this statement is a bit too much unless you are being ironic. So you say dame priti also?
Also funnily enough my phone suggested that Keith as autocorrect for keir :)
Reverse Brexit
It doesn't work that way. They have to apply for membership and go through the standard process. It's not like they can snap their fingers and become a core member once again, until the next populist leader starts threatening to leave.
No one has said otherwise.
I’m pretty sure the EU would welcome the U.K. back - not easily, of course, lots of stuff to negotiate and I should think the EU would ask for guarantees that we would pay into the budgets for the next 25 years, no matter what happens.
I’m sure they’d be happy to let us keep the pound and stay out of Schengen.
But timing matters … first there’s a constitutional debate that the EU would want to settle before letting the U.K. back in and if they move to more qualified majority voting, it might be that the U.K. wouldn’t want to join after all.
The whole “ever closer union” bit seems to have been ignored by Britain, even when they first joined. Did we think those words meant nothing?
Sorry I’m American, but wouldn’t reverse Brexit just be Brentry??
Bre-entry, because they've already entered once.
Breverse course and Bre-enter.
Bre-brentry? David Brentry?
Breturn
Breenter
No no, the reverse of Brexit is Tixerb.
Nope, it would be BRilliant.
Breunification
Can they actually reverse it? Will the EU take them back?
Not reverse it but reapply for membership, that will of course be subject to veto!
It will come with a lot of prerequisites that will make the deal the UK previously had look like they had won a golden ticket
The EU will take the UK back. It has been said by a few. The UK will still have to go through a process. It will not be quick. I would not be surprised if the EU makes the first demand for us to have a new referendum. Just so they know we are not wasting their time.
Not just wasting their time - Brexit cost the EU time and effort and money as well. They're not going to bother if the UK isn't sincere.
Yeah I can’t imagine them treating the UK with any special consideration in their favor this time
Another non-binding referendum, but this time they actually don't take action based on the vote.
Brea Culpa! This time, Britain gets to take up the Euro!
Not something that would bother me.
That’s what I’ve been saying and always get people yelling at me. Ask two questions “do you want to rejoin the EU?” and “are you willing to adopt the Euro and Schengen zone?” will yield two drastically different results.
As an American, I'd happily adopt the Euro and join the Schengen zone.
Apparently, that's not an option for us, though ;)
Don't expect Britain to return to EU in the next 50 years or so.
Make it more like 10 to 20 years
Quite a lot of people are on the fence though.
That's 37% of leave voters not of all voters.
The poll, carried out by the Times, showed that 37% of Leave voters believe Brexit has a been a failure, with just 20% saying it a success and 35% sitting on the fence.
Since the leave vote was 52% that is roughly half so 18% overall.