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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

We don't need a third party. We need ranked choice voting.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We need like eight more parties. RCV won't change hardly anything if we stick with single-winner elections. Gotta switch to some form of proportional representation, like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're right that proportional representation (PR) would better reflect diverse political views, but RCV can still be a step toward breaking the two-party dominance. It lowers the barrier for third-party and independent candidates by reducing the "spoiler effect" and encouraging broader support. Ideally, combining RCV with multi-winner districts or systems like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting would create a more representative democracy.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How can you have ranked choice voting with only two parties?

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ranked choice voting still works with two parties by letting voters rank multiple candidates within those parties or include third-party/independent options. It helps ensure the winner has broader support, reduces "lesser of two evils" voting, and encourages more positive campaigning, especially in primaries.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So, in the federal election without a third party under ranked choice; my options would be 1. Harris, 2. Trump.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Ranked choice voting is designed to reduce the spoiler effect and allow voters to support third-party and independent candidates without fear of "wasting" their vote. While it doesn't automatically create new parties, it can encourage their growth by making the political system more accessible. By implementing RCV first, the political environment becomes more open to alternative parties gaining traction and competing more fairly over time.

I'm short, by it's nature, RCV creates alternatives.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (7 children)

The best solution to the two parties excluding the left isn't a third party, it's for the left to register as Republicans and conduct a hostile takeover of the GOP in the primaries.

This can easily succeed in blue states/cities to start out.

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

The only way to create a viable third party is to vote for them. America needs a third choice.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (33 children)

"Hey, let's vote for a candidate who literally cannot win from a party that hasn't done the necessary work to become nationally viable because I don't want to be part of the two party problem even though if we do so it will guarantee that a felon rapist who incited an insurrection, stripped women of a human right, and illegally attempted to overturn an election will win." - Dipshit 3rd Party Voters

Just as stupid as Trump supporters, as far as I'm concerned.

Well, they got what we told them they'd be getting. Why aren't they celebrating?

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee -3 points 6 hours ago

Thanks for helping Trump win! Palestine is so saved. This whole thing wasn't about you feeling morally superior at all.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (29 children)

But you're SUPPORTING GENOCIDE when you vote for the candidate most likely to get the fewest people killed! While the people of Palestine are about to be annihilated, my own right to marry is about to be taken away, and all of my trans friends are going to lose access to the drugs that keep them from killing themselves, I can rest easy knowing that I didn't engage with the system at all

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

My city has a new Marxist Leninist party that has started up after the election. So no they aren't gone, but they are still harebrained.

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