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[–] moosepuggle@startrek.website 91 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is awesome! Now the IRS just needs to send me my already completed taxes that I just verify, sign, and return, like they do in Sweden.

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

But... why doesn't anyone think of the millionaires :(

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they are missing something, is it easy to ammend what they send, or do you gotta start from scratch and you can only use that as a reference?

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There is no 'scratch', you login and practically everything is filled out. If you want to change or add something, you can do so.

Sounds awesome. Wish we had that.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, it's all a bunch of forms and you can edit the info that is prefilled.

There's a rare few forms which still need to be sent in on paper, but most can be sent in digital form.

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intuit seems to be worried. Shortly after this story was published, Rick Heineman, the company’s communications VP, emailed The Verge with an aggressive statement calling the IRS’s pilot “redundant” and “half-baked.”

“The Direct File scheme is a solution in search of a problem,” he wrote, adding that it could end up “costing billions of dollars in taxpayer money.”

"Yeah you morons! Don't use the free tools that the govt provides you! Pay us to do it!"

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hes literally pointing out the problem with their own product..."redundant","solution in search of problem", "costs taxpayers stupid money".

... dude theres 4 fingers point back at you.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

And the last one is flipping him off.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Very good news. Tired of giving money to the tax prep vampires. But initial roll out is for simple tax situations (W-2 and deducting student loan interest).

Why can’t this program also apply to selling of stocks/options as well? This information is already furnished to the IRS

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In some European countries, paying income tax means that the government sends you a form that is already completely filled out except for your deductions, and you simply verify that it looks good, then you add in whatever deductions you have, and file it.

Because 99% of the work in filing our taxes in America is completely worthless. The government already receives information directly from the same companies who send you all those tax forms. The IRS already knows all the information. Making you input it again is just a way to ensure the maximum number of mistakes.

So the IRS is taking a good first step, but we still have a long way to go to catch up to what people in other countries already have. Instead of making me fill out the forms, and the IRS checks for errors, have the IRS automatically fill out the forms, and I'll check for errors. In a civilized country, this is something that we should already have.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s because the tax filing software companies lobby lawmakers to prevent exactly what you described. They want to keep the tax code complicated, so people feel the need to continue buying tax software every year. Seriously, tax software lobbies are some of the largest lobby groups in the country.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the other half of that is that Republicans want to make paying taxes as difficult as possible so people will support tax cuts

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

And to take it one step further, republicans want to see governmental agencies seem incompetent and fail, thus set the course for their regulatory capture.

And seemingly right out of a super villain movie to further the above, is Project 2025:

Established in 2022, the project seeks to recruit thousands to come to Washington, D.C., to replace existing employees to restructure the Executive Branch of the federal government as to further the agenda and policies of Donald Trump. The plan would perform a quick takeover of the entire U.S. federal government under a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory – a theory proposing the president of the United States have absolute power of the executive branch – upon inauguration.

Scary times. To quote David Frum:

If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

There was a massive bipartisan (well POTUS and Dems in Congress) push for this in the second half of the Bush Administration. It lost GOP support after the Republican House Caucus turned on Bush for his path to citizenship immigration reform policy. Intuit and its peers have so much money in this and in lobbying.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

"According to the IRS, these are the states joining the pilot:

States with state income tax: Arizona, California, Massachusetts, and New York
States without state income tax: Alaska, Florida, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming"

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nice! I just moved out of NY State (NYC) and down to Florida, free filing and no state income tax for me!

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you have to live in Florida…

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