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[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

For a bit of context, elon is supporting the far right AfD. And AfD is pro russian oil and anti nato. Nato which might have to intervene if a nato member is attacked by russia.

If there is any party russia is supporting, it has to be AfD, imo that would make the most sense.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not just german elections. Also did to usa elections, here in orbanistan, slovakia, romania, etc...

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 day ago

even Ukraine over the last 6 years, and georgia. and as i've watched things playeout after the last 20 years, i can say with confidence: no event is too small for russia to interfere. they desire total global dominance. they will do anything to achieve it. and the easiest way ho weaken everyone else is disinformation to make us all live in our own individual customized reality

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 11 points 23 hours ago

Mexican too, we even had RT ads in plain sight back when the Ukraine invasion was starting and the expresident constantly downplayed Putin's shit, we still are applying the outdated (most likely expired too) sputnik vaccine to the public.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Im guessing its going to the AfD

Im not just GΓΌssing. Its quite suspicious that a lot of their politicians have ties to Russia.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No. Shit. They do in the US too. It worked twice now.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

And in Bulgaria(?) too. There they had to redo the elections because of this (if I remember correctly)

[–] schnokobaer@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago

Damn! I'm shocked! I would've never assumed

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And I would bet some of that money is coming from Elon

Laundering through Elon.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 19 hours ago

Worked great in the US, Nazi space karen definitely helped get trump elected

[–] Valeria@feddit.kyiv.ua 16 points 1 day ago

Classic Russian meddling.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

"Allegedly."

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

While I have little doubt they are spending many millions on it, I sort of doubt it's billions of euros. They link a telegram source, which talks about German Intelligence. Not impossible, but not an easily verifiable source.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

It just seems rather unlikely they are spending that much on disinformation when the have a real and present war in front of them with huge hardware/personnel loss, and have a waning treasury.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Maybe they meant rubles.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago

They want to spend 2 billion euros on disinformation so they don't have to spend 5 billion euros on their military.

For example, if they spent 2 billion getting Trump elected and he cuts off US support for Ukraine, that 5 billion would be an absolute bargain for them.

[–] daw@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago

This is hybrid war. AfD and other Russian friendly parties winning means less or less reliable aid to Ukraine

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

I hear you, but what does it really matter? An (or many) orders of magnitude more than any other country would spend, or even consider.

They're doing it because it's working. They've got America on the ropes and didn't have to nuke anyone.

[–] Theobroma@feddit.org -5 points 19 hours ago

Vladi, you want my vote? Give me some monry.