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Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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Oh ffs, I just made the move to Proton with some stuff a few months ago. I'm really keen on switching the address out on a load of accounts.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

What would be a good alternative? I refuse to support this. Thankfully, I have my own domain, so anything where I can use it would be great, and moving shouldn't be that hard. Bonus points if I can use wildcards, or at least have a few emails, like spam@mydomain and other.

Oh, and it has to support "+" emails, such as mail+whatever@mydomain.com

[–] needanke@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

mailbox.org works great for me.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Maaaan, what the fuck?!?

[–] loon@sh.itjust.works 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Again privacy oriented companies that bend to demagogues and desperate profiteers cannot be trusted to handle sensitive data.

Switched from ProtonVPN to Mullvad and ProtonMail to Posteo. Wiped my ProtonDrive. I sleep pretty soundly at night.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, if they are praising the orange cock, then whats to make you believe they actually deleted the data like you said, and dont have a backup somewhere.

mullvads good though, cheap and no issues with it.

[–] loon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Exactly. It was a shit lesson to learn but now I've gone the way of encrypted local backups across multiple systems and no cloud bullshit.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot fathom being that stupid to believe that Republicans are anti-monoploy when they give huge corporation massive tax breaks and removes barriers for mega mergers

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Biden: puts Lina Kahn in charge of the FTC

Lina Kahn: Goes after monopoly behavior, non competes, etc

Trump: Promptly fires Lina Kahn, day one

Protonmail: Clearly Republicans are for the little guy!

[–] cykopidgeon@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

Seriously. Kahn was actually trying stuff. I don't know how anyone could look at Big Tech falling in line with Trump and think that they're going to be tough on anti-trust, anti-big business.

This is going to be 4yrs of looting and grifting.

[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 1 day ago

Imagine being so fucking brainwashed you believe Republicans are for "the little guy"

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah Proton already burned that bridge. "Politically Neutral" is no longer an option for them.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

When I first saw the headline, I thought it sounded like one of those stories about how many Nazis are at the table or at the bar.

When you exist in a 2-party system, and one of those parties are mask-off fascists, and people suspect you of supporting them, saying you’re neutral isn’t a good look.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And today I got an email saying they're donating a million dollars to support non-profits for privacy and freedom. Timing, timing, timing.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They do that every year. The 2024 was the 7th edition.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yep, they said so in the email. That's nice of them.

[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Okay, I feel like the part that people are skipping over is the "cooperating with authorities on legal data requests" part. No. As a privacy company; You DO NOT save and store ANY information apart from what is crucially and imminently necessary to run your service. Anything beyond that is a blatant conflict of interests and should not be trusted. Corruption and data sharing that CAN happen, WILL happen when it comes to data security based companies. Full stop.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I just cancelled my subscription and moved everything to Tuta. Tuta also seems to have a political stance much more aligned with my own: diversity, privacy oriented, and eco friendly.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Yeah I'm very much now considering alternative options like Tuta now. Been a Proton user since 2020 and subscribed for over 2 years with them, and didn't have any intention of moving until now.

[–] Sniatch@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I already switched from Proton Mail to Tuta. No regrets

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[–] waywardninja@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (12 children)

Curious how so many people decided to ditch them and switch (vocally on Lemmy at least) and now they back pedal/clarify/whatever. Turns out we have power and using it works. Sorry not sorry. Edited: pedal instead of petal.

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Im so sorry. I tried not to, but the pull was to strong. Ignore me please...

But...

The saying is "back pedal", not "back petal". "Back pedal" as in trying to pedal backwards on a bike. Not "back petal" as in trying to pick flowers at the back of a bush, maybe? Trying to not lie down on a bed of roses? Unsure.

[–] Leg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oof. Kinda awkward, but...

*too

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[–] waywardninja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

I fixed that twice!
Fist Curse you autocorrect! Fist

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I really don't think there's anything wrong with a respectful and well-intentioned correction.

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[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think at this point in the USA it's very clear:

If you're "politically neutral", you're Republican.

I (and very many others) may not agree with the democrats, but since we only got two parties there, it's damage-control. And any sane person (that would like to have a non-dystopian future) votes against Trump...

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