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Image alt text: An image of Steam's top 10 best-selling games at the time of posting, three of which are marked as "prepurchase"

I checked the Steam stats and noticed that in the top 10 best selling games by revenue, there's three games that aren't even out yet. If we ignore the Steam Deck and f2p games, it's three out of four games. They have also been in the top 100 for 4, 6, and 8 weeks respectively, so people just keep on buying them. I would love to know why people keep doing this, as the idea of pre-ordering is that there is a physical copy of a game available for you on release, but this is not a concern with digital items. So after so many games lately being utterly broken on release, why do people not wait until launch reviews to buy the game? If you touch a hot stove and get burned multiple times, when does one learn?

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Absolutely not!

(I pre-ordered stalker 2. Can't help that I'm a Stan for the series and mod scene. I was happy with this purchase.)

It can be hard to get over the urge if you're a fan of a series. The next game MUST be better... right? It's a hard thing to truly get too mad at others since it's pretty much human nature, even if we can all agree it's not healthy.

[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm going to preorder monster hunter wilds, I'll do it the day before and pre-download it. Does that count?

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

No, I was thinking about civ7 but was unsure because, while firaxis is very talented, I do not trust 2k, once they added denuvo I decided to not even buy it at launch even if the reviews are positive (and £120 for the founders edition is stupid, especially since, if the game is updated like all previous civs, it will be necessary).

I will be waiting for denuvo to be removed (because it always is) and for a sale.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Almost never. The last one I digitally pre-ordered was Borderlands 3, and given how that turned out, I think I might buy BL4 on release day, if not a few weeks later

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah I’ll pre order any game that I plan on buying. There’s no practical reason not to.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if the game launches and you find out everyone is saying it is incomplete, doesn't run properly, and is crashing their consoles over and over?

That would be the practical reason I would think of for not just outright purchasing something that hasn't come out

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That kind of thing would likely be made known through reviews that come out a few days to a week before release in which case you could just cancel your preorder. And even if they didn’t, Steam’s refund policy doesn’t care if you preordered or not, you can get a refund either way.

If it’s a console game and the problem is bad enough that it’s crashing consoles, even with refund policies as restrictive as Sony’s, they will issue refunds in cases like that, as we’ve seen a lot of in the past couple years.

The only actual negative scenario that’s left is you play it and you just don’t like it, and you’re not on PC so you can’t get a refund. But not preordering a game doesn’t really solve that problem. If you buy a game on the PS store two weeks after release and it turns out you don’t like the game you’re no better off than if you pre ordered it and didn’t like it. Generally people don’t pre order games that they’re not sure they’re even going to like.

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[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting. I can’t see any practical reason TO preorder. Are they going to run out of digital copies? Am I going to forget to buy it? I’d rather wait for reviews and a couple patches.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  • You get content only available if you pre order
  • You get early access to the game
  • You get some amount of later expansion content for free
  • you can preload the game so when it releases, you can just begin playing it.

There are lots of practical reasons TO preorder something, thought it’s not always all of those things. And you can both preorder something and “Wait for reviews” because the vast majority of the time, reviews release before a game releases.

For example, Civ 7 comes out on the 11th, if you pre order you get the benefit of getting to play it on the 6th, and the reviews for it all released today, the 3rd. That means I’ll know today if the game sucks and I can just… cancel my preorder if I wanted to. Then in a couple days I get to play the game early, so in case the reviews were all paid for I get to see for myself if I don’t like the game, and if I don’t like it, I can cancel my pre order.

In case I don’t cancel my pre order, I also save $10 on Civ packs I would otherwise be paying for. If I waited for release day to buy it, I’d lose out on the benefits of pre ordering, but gain nothing.

[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

None of those reasons sound especially practical to me, but I may be in the minority. I’d rather wait and see that the game is stable and if I really want the extra content I’ll get it later (I’m patient).

I worry that pre ordering may send a message to publishers that a game doesn’t need to be good or even finished

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are all objectively practical, every single one. They are upsides without a downside. That being said, it’s ultimately your choice whether you choose practicality over the morals of the thing. If you want to choose not to preorder something just to send a message, I get it.

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No reason to. A while back, some publishers gave 10% off pre orders, I bought maybe one or two like that. Some do digital goodies which doesn't entice me at all (I'm DLC proof). I can download anything fast enough. So why would I pre order?

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago

Does steam let you pre install? Only reason I can think of and I have never done it

[–] Schmuppes 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I did pre-order KC:D II, but it's the first full price big title I've purchased in a long while. I was hoping to have a new GPU at release, but it looks like I'll have to wait a little longer. At least they'll have ironed out the major bugs at that point.

The reason I preordered the game was that there's a bonus quest, the game was 10% off and I can theoretically still cancel my preorder from Gamesplanet in case the reviews suck. It's not like pre-orders are irreversible.

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[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Last game i pre-ordered was fallout 4 hahahaha. So no i don't pre-order anymore. I even waited for a discount on baldur's gate 3 before buying it, that was a feat of it's own.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Do I pay full price for games before they are available to play and are most likely not going to be finished upon release? No.

Preordering anything with no real or artificial scarcity doesn’t really make financial sense. It’s a predatory sales tactic to get people to part with their money sooner, in this case before customers have a chance to use software that is pretty much unreturnable. Gaming publishers love digital preorders because some customers end up paying full price for games they don’t even like and can’t even resell.

Sadly, for at least the last ten years or more, most non-online games are best played a few years after release date when they’ve had their bugs fixed or their ‘complete edition’ released.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

No. Any game I might possibly consider pre-ordering isn't going to magically disappear. I was gonna make a comment about how there's probably no guarantee about return policy on Steam for pre-order games, but I looked it up and can't make the argument I was gonna.

Either way, I would much prefer to wait for a game to be on sale on a much later date because at that point any major game ruining glitches/bugs should hopefully be patched and price will be cheaper. Generally, I don't tend to buy games over a certain price anymore. Price varies, but right now it's over $20USD since I'm on a college financial aid budget. And no, I don't include $19.99 as under the budget because that's absolutely marketing bullshit that I think should die.

Also, I don't like pre-ordering games since you usually don't get any real world bonus items anymore (at least from triple AAA titles anymore). Granted, I've only ever done 2 IRL pre-orders in my life, but I was extremely disappointed about not getting anything besides access to free DLC for the Borderlands Pre-Sequel game compared to how I got a full guide book for BioShock Infinite, which was more than enough to make me thrilled (even if I've never actually used it once).

Plus, at this point, pretty much every single pre-order game I see (unsurprisingly all triple AAA) is a game I know I'm not gonna like, so it's pointless for me.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

I was the one trying to talk the friend group out of pre-ordering for years. Oddly enough, I haven't needed to do that in a while.

Might have something to do with how the last time that discussion happened, the game in question was Fallout 76.

I didn't even have to say "told you so" for it to never come up again.

[–] wildwhitehorses@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. After clocking up 10,000 hours on Civ VI. Civ VII can take my money!

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[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I very rarely ever did. And when I did I made sure I trusted the studio and knew enough. But even with this preparation I was burned most of the time preordering. 

Nowadays I notice a game I like and I wait for 1-3 years, then pick it up DRM free, with all the extensions and fully patched for oftentimes 15€ or so.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Occasionally, there will be a game I want to play as soon as it releases - even then, I’ll maybe wait until the last hour before release to “pre order”, just as one last fuck you to the concept.

[–] 100@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

theres no difference between preorder and buying on release date

so if youre buying it anyway, may as well preorder and cancel it if reviews are sketchy

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And you can even return it, if it's released and you haven't installed it... Or if it's on Steam, and you played it less than 2 hours.

There really isn't a lot of reason to strenuously avoid pre-ordering if you're pretty sure you'll buy it at release.

And even better, a lot of games have pre-installs that can save you time at release. You could be playing the game instead of being mad that it isn't downloaded yet.

[–] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Only indie games, because I like to support indie developers.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, why? That's the stupidest thing to do.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Rarely. I don't think I ever have two years in a row.

Usually only if I'm very sure it's a game I will get a lot of playtime out of due to past titles. For instance, I did pre-order Civ 7 because prior Civs have been the best hours-enjoyed-per-dollar investments I've ever made. No exaggeration, even accounting for DLCs I bought at full price.

Nope, not a single reason to do so.

Preorder bonuses are worthless and are always available as dlc later on.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Only twice and felt foolish after release. Stalker 2 was selling below pre order price on a trustworthy key site. And cyberpunk, not sure why I did that one.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Once, Diablo 3. I figured it could not miss. It missed.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I can think of 2 legitimate reasons for doing this - either putting the money down now so you don't have to come up with it later, or so you can preload it and have it available right at release.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago

As far as I remember, I've never bought anything in my life that I couldn't enjoy immediately after payment (not counting delivery time if it had to be ordered and shipped). I did buy early access games, or games at full price on release day (twice only, Overwatch and Baldur's Gate 3), though.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Used to be I could preload games I prepurchase and would absolutely be doing that still, but that's pretty much never on offer anymore so I don't prepurchase even games I'm 100% certain I'll be getting.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There are very few reason why I might choose to pre-order a game:

  • I know for sure I want to play the game on launch day and dont want to deal with downloading the game all day
  • the pre-order comes with physical goods that I want
  • the game is made by FromSoftware or Yoko Taro, I know I am basically guaranteed to like anything from either of these
  • the game is part of an intellectual property that I like and I want that property to be successful, and I would have purchased the game anyways

Thats really it. Generally niche instances, I don't find myself pre-ordering games all that often anymore. I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition of Elden Ring, the White Snow edition of NieR Replicant 1.22 (still waiting on that Gestalt 1.22 DLC). But other than those two, I haven't felt compelled to pre-order anything else. I learned about Dino Crisis on GOG too late if it even had a pre-order period, but I did buy it on release day.

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

no i have fast internet so if i do buy a massive bloated game i can wait 20 minutes before playing it, or buy it the day of then remote download with the steam mobile app

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I stopped pre-ordering games long ago. THhe last 3 I ever pre-ordered were Shenmue 3, No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077. The all had a disastrous launch to some degree, and I said never again. I also pre-ordered Vampire: The Masquerade 2, but I cancelled it years ago. The last physical game I bought was Metal Gear Solid V, and it was a DVD with a fucking Steam installer inside.

Never again.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If I have trust in the developers that the game won't be an absolute shitfest (i.e. they have an okayish track record) and I want to play on day one to be part of the community, yes. That said, the last game was Elden Ring and the next is Monster Hunter Wilds, so that doesn't happen very often.

Nightreign and Subnautica 2 are also on the list, I'm not too hyped about anything else this year.

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[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Last game I preordered was World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade and I stood in line for 12 hours to make sure I was the very first to have it. Haven't preordered any game since then. They weren't distributed digitally back then, so running out of 'copies' was a real thing.

Now, I perpetually buy games that are 1-2 years old. They've been patched, they've been balanced, they're stable, and I can watch someone on Twitch beforehand to decide if it's worth purchasing.

[–] Verqix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With 14 days after release and 2 hours of playtime you can still refund. Maybe some just see it as the current day demo? Quite easy to see if it runs well and what the playability and average response is within that time frame. Like a wishlist that reserves the cash in advance.

[–] passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get lost in the hype and I do, last one was armored core and cyberpunk before that

I will say this, the hype is also entertainment and I had more fun with the buildup to cyberpunk than with the game itself and I'm glad I experienced it all, steam servers crashing was wild

The real cyberpunk was the friends we made along the way unironically

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I read so much about the lore of cyberpunk before the release just to be met with a boring mess.

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