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Elon Musk announced that he and Trump are shutting down USAID, bypassing Congress’s authority over federal spending.

Musk claimed Trump fully supports the move, though Trump has only criticized USAID without explicitly confirming its closure.

The White House has not commented. The administration has already placed USAID officials on leave and reviewed its funding.

Critics argue the move violates federal law, setting up a potential legal battle.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 194 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

How the fuck is Elon Musk suddenly in charge of the US Government? How are the American people OK with this? How are American politicians even OK with this?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 115 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember when Republicans were whinging about "unelected bureaucrats" and the "shadow government"?

Yeah, now they're literally implementing that themselves.

I wonder if Elon walks around with personal security.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when Republicans were whinging about “unelected bureaucrats” and the “shadow government”?

"Wait, it's all projection?"

🌍 👨‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

"Always has been"

Every accusation is actually a confession

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He does and quite a lot it seems, the New York Times report it's up to 20 bodyguards and a doctor. Tesla payed 2.4 million USD for protection of Musk in 2023. Apparently they went through documents that the Handelsblatt got from Lukasz Krupski, who used to work at Tesla

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/13/technology/elon-musk-security.html

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 34 points 2 weeks ago

American people are protesting. Politicians are either actively allowing this behavior or saying, "Oh-no, he can't do that! What he did is very bad!" Unfortunately, politicians are not beholden to the people they are supposedly representing.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We're not okay with it, they've just removed our ability to do anything about it that isn't a literal act of terrorism

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago

JFK put it quite nicely back in 1962: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Musk can literally never show himself in public anymore for fear of assassination.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think he's been running around with ~~a human shield~~ one of his kids at all times recently?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This was all outlined in Project 2025 which was made publically available for everyone to read. Then people voted for Trump.

[–] ZJBlank@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You say that like trump voters read anything

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A bunch of the conservatives I know professed to believe him when he said he had no idea about project 2025. Whether they were just masking or actually duped, I have my guesses.

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 96 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"buT iTS aN oFFiCiAL aCt sO itS LeGAl"

  • a blatantly corrupt Supreme Court
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

That's... Not applicable here... Depending on what you mean.

That ruling was about personal responsibility and accountability. Not whether everything the government does at the president's request is legal.

i.e you can sue the government, just not the president himself.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You also usually need “standing” to sue. If you’re personally affected, you have standing. If you’re a state or local government and have your government or citizens affected, you have standing. Who has standing here?

The human suffering cost is completely amoral and the influence cost on the us should be considered treason, but that doesn’t mean there’s someone who can sue to fix it

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

Congress would have standing aince it's their laws being ignored - but good luck with that for 2 years.. I assume the people in USAID also have standing as their employment would be illegally terminated.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How blatantly they are killing people and emptying coffers. This is a coup and a robbery.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

I believe the word for that is kleptocracy.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon thinks he's pulling a Julius Caesar on us (crossing the Rubicon), but he's actually pulling a Crassus campaigning in Parthia. I pray he ends the exact same way. There is no more fitting end...

[–] teft@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And for anyone who isn’t aware of how Crassus died go watch Viserys’ death in Game of Throne. It was inspired by Crassus’ death.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago

For those of you who dont care to research. He most likely died in battle against the Parthians, but according to legend they poured liquid gold into his mouth post mortem to make fun of his avarice. Also some shenanigans with his severed head occured.

What the other guys are referring to is some later depictions where he was executed with liquid gold being poured down his throat.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

Seems somehow…. I don’t know, illegal? to have non-elected officials making decisions to shut down government agencies?

If only there were another part of our government designed to somehow… maybe, keep things like this from happening?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago

Not necessarily but almost certainly in this case. Congress created USAID. Only Congress can shut it down.

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

Critics argue the move violates federal law, setting up a potential legal battle.

So?
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(sigh)

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there a reason congress is not taking legal action?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Congress is neutered without a democratic majority in the house and 67 seats in the senate. Congress is basically useless. Right now, the only check on the president is the judiciary. And, shall we say, measures at the fringes.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Congress has been ceding power to the President for decades, this is actually not too far off where they were headed anyway

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Investigations would start in the house, and have to be signed off on by Mike Johnson. He was elected with over a 70% margin and his voters love what's happening. The other option would be John Thune, who has about a 20% margin in South Dakota, and his people love what's happening too.

Unless you can change those facts, America will become a fascist authoritarian nation.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the republicans have the majority in both the house and the senate.

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[–] randompasta 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This will kill people. Not that more blood on Trump's hands will change his supporter's minds.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure President Musk knows what he is doing.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

The whole thing is starting to reek of the 1933 putsch attmept in the US, exceot they have "a man" on the inside this time to help.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dumb question: why are they targeting USAID?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I assume:

  • “wasted” money not spent to directly benefit us citizens
  • there always seems to be racism at the core
  • they think they can get away with it - who will speak for the suffering millions in developing countries
  • Trump doesnt understand concepts like influence, soft power, long term thinking, morality

This is “free money” where they can claim their “$2T” in savings

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Perfectly summarized. It’s a damn shame. People well die, and the US cedes influence and leaves a power vacuum China is happy to fill.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

To make it worse, we spend almost nothing on it. They are saving pennies:

The U.S. is the world’s largest donor of humanitarian aid by far. It spends less than 1 percent of its budget on foreign assistance, a smaller share overall than some other countries.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/usaid-website-goes-dark-amid-trump-administrations-freeze-on-foreign-aid-worldwide

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The funny thing is most foreign aid projects are implemented by American contracting companies. A very large percentage of the money stays in the US and employs Americans. Look up DAI, Chemonics, Abt Associates, Creative Associates, TetraTech, etc. Most of these companies will go bankrupt because of these actions. In the case of Chemonics, they run a project to distribute HIV and malaria medication to millions around the world. These people will lose their medication. They also run a program to detect famine in Africa, South America, and parts of Asia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_Early_Warning_Systems_Network

[–] moon@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon Musk pushes the lie that truly homeless people don't exist. That essentially it's a choice and we should feel no empathy for them. Add to that his well-documented history of racism and weird eugenicist beliefs about IQ and superior genes that need to survive, you start to get the picture for why he thinks taking food and medicine away from the most deprived people on the planet is a priority for the US government.

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