this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2025
130 points (98.5% liked)

Slop.

433 readers
624 users here now

For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No bigotry of any kind, including ironic bigotry.

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: Do not post public figures, these should be posted to c/gossip

founded 4 months ago
MODERATORS
 
top 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 84 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imperialism is when you intentionally prop up your enemies

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's delusional, but they don't think they were enemies. There are unresolvable contradictions in right wing ideology that force them into this conclusion.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'd like to hear more about these unresolved contradictions if you don't mind.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Right wingers are unable to properly confront the failures and contradictions of capitalism, nor can they abide the necessary restraints on individual businesses that the liberal state imposes in order to stabilize the capitalist system. They attribute all of this to a shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives, frequently casting this conspiracy as communist. This tendency goes at least as far back as the John Birch Society, who took it as an article of faith that Eisenhower was a communist. Essentially, anti-communism collapses into self-negation through its failures to resolve the contradictions of capitalism.

There are Marxists who are much smarter than me and can probably explain this in more depth than I can, but that's the basic version.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think it might be dumber than that. I think they might be referring to our backing of dictatorships as backing communism because they think communism is when dictator. If you asked them to specify they would probably say Saudi Arabia and shit.

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think that may be more the liberal mindset. Conservatives don't mind dictators a la Pinochet as long as they're right wing and US aligned.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

Conservatives don't mind dictators a la Pinochet

I don't think Conservatives would dare use the word "dictator" to describe the likes of Pinochet. After all, everybody knows that Pinochet brought the freedoms of the free market (best system in the world, best and most freest ever) to the oppressed Chilean people who were suffering under ... checks notes ... mild social democracy.

I could be wrong though, I'm sure there are some really violet chuds that would say he was a dictator and that was a good thing because leftist bad frothingfash

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Joe Biden was a communist.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of them do believe this

American conservatives are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you'll ever meet

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

There’s a post going around Twitter rn where some American conservative was like “we were this close to communism” like “wow we dodged a bullet” lmao

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They'll say that the EU is communist because of Macron and that's why we need to put tariffs on them.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A relative told me this recently

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

I was also repeatedly informed of this fact by a family member.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's this yank I talk politics with sometimes and he is terminally conspiracy brained. For him, everything comes down to that "shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives" that you describe. He talks about the WEF, globalism, the Bilderburgs, all the greatest hits of right wing brain rot.

He's mentioned several times in the past that he believes that the USA was the one who imposed the "evil Communist dictatorships" abroad like North Korea. I could not figure out for the life of me how on Earth he ever reached this blatantly ahistorical conclusion.

You might be onto something here.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

He’s mentioned several times in the past that he believes that the USA was the one who imposed the “evil Communist dictatorships” abroad like North Korea. I could not figure out for the life of me how on Earth he ever reached this blatantly ahistorical conclusion.

I suppose that could be true in the sense that the US imposed themselves on the peninsula to prevent it being unified under a communist dotp, instead relegating them to the just north half of the peninsula while the burger regime turns the south half into its puppet. Even then, my last sentence was a big stretch.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

necessary restraints on individual businesses that the liberal state imposes in order to stabilize the capitalist system. They attribute all of this to a shadowy conspiracy

I recently read a few pages into Proudhon’s Philosophy of Poverty. While most of it junk, it did contain one curious thing: that society moves according to laws independent of any individual person, and religion is used to explain this apparent external action upon society.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

well the libarlas are all leftist for them so they do not and can not understand that their Oligarchy uses US Aid as a weapon aganst "leftist Regimes " , because for them the "deep State" ARE Leftist itself a "Autoritärian leftist Regime" , secretly plotting with china to take their FREEDOM. They also can not comprehent things that happen outside of their Control ,Meaning US control --> that would make them feel bad. So they conclude that that all this china rise etc. was actually just a conspiracy by CNN and other "Leftist" against them...

something like that ?

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

'Kill them with kindness' as Jesus said.

[–] poppy_apocalypse@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vijay Pershad comprehensively proved that the CIA overthrew Arbenz using the CIA as his only source. I find that absolutely hysterical

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] poppy_apocalypse@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] poppy_apocalypse@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago
[–] REgon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

I think it might be the book "Washington Bullets"?

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 months ago

Is this the new "hitler was a socialist" that I'm going to be hearing from now on?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they probably heard about the US propping up pol pot and just riffed from there

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Ah yes and Ho Chi Minh (don’t look at what happened after)

[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Oh it’s actually “Communism International Assistance” pack it up folks

[–] KatGirl@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Think what we are seeing is the propogands the capitalists used in the cold war working so effectively that even those in power believe their lies, which is leading to an even more backwards bourgeois ideology

[–] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Pinochet was woke!

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

... what? What the fuck is this person talking about? Like, genuinely, I can't imagine a world where that makes sense.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

"a little communism as an anti-treat"

I assume they think doing socialism has held countries back and that the US covertly encouraged it because it kept them from becoming competitive through the virtues of free market capitalism. We are right to laugh at them, of course.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

it's a honkey so assume the exact opposite of what was said

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

These hogs are unbelievably idiotic

[–] on8wingedangel@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is this just referring to Pol Pot?

[–] crime@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I sincerely doubt he knows about Shining Path or any other possible legit accusations like the Maoist red army faction in Italy.

The former who the CIA probably did infiltrate and the later we explicitly know they did (and impersonated)

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I seriously doubt someone like this even knows who tf Pol Pot was

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

And maybe Saddam Huessein (even though he was anti-communist) because of Baathism/Arab Socialism and he was Muslim (who are culturally communists to reactionaries).

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would I listen to some pervert from the Bronze Age?

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

because he has 45% Proto-Indo-European blood, which means he's more mixed than you

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

We live in hell

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Put this in front of Elon quick! He'll absolutely and unquestioningly believe it.