Republicans: That is a feature, not a bug.
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Government shuts down: Can you not see how your taxes got wasted and are just theft by the nerds????
Congress: gets downsized
They. Don't. Care.
they just blame the democrats and the maga morons will eat it right up.
I don't know. They frame other budget crises as fighting the good fight.
Here they look like squabbling clowns who can't get their own party in line.
Is it going to sway tribalists to vote Democrat? Fuck no. But it is costing them donor money and it makes them look weak politically.
I bet they care. If this goes into November, which it might due to habit energy and stubborn idiots, they're all going to have a lot of trouble spinning this as someone else's fault.
They do this every other year and it hasn't cost them any donor money yet
Not this. They get into brinkmanship over the budget often. And in that case it's easy to blame Dems for not giving into their demands.
This is different. There's no demands. They can't even agree amongst themselves.
And it's a political weakness that will cost them votes and donations. Some of them at least are smart enough to care.
They only care as far as this makes them look bad to the people who vote for them.
Well yeah. And donate to them.
And this does make them look bad.
There are certainly some factions within the Republican party that would look at the current situation with glee, but I think you're right.
I remember reading some analysis back when Grover Norquist was having Tea Party members sign pledges/get others to sign pledges, that those pledges would eventually create a lose-lose situation for the opportunistic Republican candidates that signed them. They seemed to be beneficial from a populist standpoint, but were fundamentally incompatible with the reality of politics requiring some amount of give and take.
Basically predicting a situation somewhat similar to this.
They do, but only in the last hour, when people start preparing the consequences to their actions:
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When people start shorting the USA stock market
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When CEOs start hiding their USD overseas
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When rich folk start pulling their money out of the stock market.
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When rich folk start investing in foreign capital.
Whether or not Republicans can admit it, something has changed in the dynamics of this argument. Where originally shutting down the government was an option. Now, it is the last thing they want to do. Which means American citizens just have to keep up the pressure on politicians. And this turkey will cook itself.
Yep, a good chunk are okay with the result. They just hate being embarrassed getting it.
None of them are rebels, just fascists. The entire party is useless.
The American Fascist Party.
it's amazing that anybody votes for these morons
Other morons do.
Man people are dumb. Can't they see its the democrats fault Republicans hate each other?
Is it solely republicans who can nominate a leader?
Or could democrats just go around and find a dozen or two republicans that would agree to some sort of middle ground candidate and nominate that person themselves?
Lol, bold of you to assume even half a dozen Republicans would side with Democrats, let alone 1-2 dozen.
To answer your question, they've already nominated Jeffries. That won't get a floor vote without Republican support, and no Republican wants to appear weak. I also think they want this deadlock to continue so there actually is a shut down.
Any GOP rep that votes for Jeffries will get shot by a Qanoner.
It's a minority cult that's hellbent on forcefully taking control of the country, or burning it down in the process.
They can. they just have to vote for a Democrat.
The two party system working as intended, folks!!
Not everything is shut down, they still have committees that can meet to do the important work of making sure Joe Biden balances his checkbook correctly.
Attempting to shut down the government is the plan then
They know they are going to get blamed for the shutdown regardless. It would be much better for it to be because they wanted "to elect a strong conservative to drain the swamp over the objections of the RINOs" and not "National parks are closed because Republicans wanted to defund social security and democrats said no."
National parks are the least of your worries. People loosing confidence in the dollar will bring this country to its knees.
Edit: It's really the reason DEMs should never cave to these negotiations. They are putting the finger on the red button and threatening to take us all out.
They're going to blame democrats for not voting for a moderate republican, even though republicans are the ones who can't get their act together and elect somebody who isn't pro-sedition.
"Won't do what we want? Want to vote with Democrats to stop government shutdown? Fine get the fuck out McCarthy, no one is good enough to fill that seat! We'll get our hostage (govt shutdown) anyway until we get what we want."
- These Republican shit eaters, probably.
Imagine the new speaker has to work with democrats due to the slim GOP majority. Since that's exactly what McCarthy was booted for it would just be too funny.
I was wondering what would happen with that.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The repeated failures by House Republicans to elect a new speaker are making the federal government more likely to shut down next month, as the GOP’s weeks-long internal dysfunction threatens to delay vital legislation.
Congress has until Nov. 17 to approve a deal to fund the government, or members of the military risk missing paychecks, national parks will close and the Internal Revenue Service will run shoestring operations.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) went on “Fox News Sunday” and CBS’s “Face the Nation” over the weekend to press the case for what has quickly become Biden’s signature foreign policy legislation — and to encourage the House to act.
The House was set to grant Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R-N.C.), the speaker pro tempore, expanded powers to bring legislation to the floor in light of the deteriorating situation in Israel and Gaza and the approaching funding deadline.
Facing an imminent government shutdown in September, McCarthy passed a short-term funding bill called a “continuing resolution,” or CR, that kept federal operations going at current spending levels and jettisoned a Senate request for aid for Ukraine.
Hard-line Republicans, particularly in the House Freedom Caucus, have a severe distaste for CRs, preferring instead to pass full-year appropriations bills that fund individual government agencies and programs.
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