this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
231 points (97.1% liked)

politics

21724 readers
3787 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] archonet@lemy.lol 112 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Perhaps because he doesn't seem to think there will be a need for a 2028 presidential race. Did he not say "you won't need to vote anymore" to his supporters after the 2024 election?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 month ago

yes. yes he did. that either means he's establishing himself as dicktator for life, or he's gonna fuck up the country so much there won't be a government to elect in 2028. his actions thus far, it's hard to tell which way he's aiming that malformed 'shroom of his.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just a correction, he didn't say this after, he literally said it a few days before the election.. :(

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah that's what I meant, just poorly phrased -- "you won't need to vote anymore [after the election]" to his supporters.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Understood! Sorry for the confusion!

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

Before, and they still voted for him.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump views Trump as his successor.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

And that's Donald Trump Sr., specifically.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump cannot fathom a world where he's not the center. So to him, the 2028 election doesn't exist. It doesn't dawn on him that the republican party will NEVER stand in the way of the 2 term limit, for one important reason. If they ever lose, they may never win again. Imagine if Obama had been allowed to run for a 3rd term. We'd be on his 6th term right now.

So republicans don't want to risk that.

It's like being 4th and 9. You punt. Unless you're close enough for a field goal. But you don't run a play and risk losing everything.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

republicans have thus far been willing to risk literally the entire constitution/democratic process, but term limits for president would be the line they don't cross?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because its the one that has consequences.

If they kill democracy, or kill the constitution, that just means THEY'RE in charge.

But if they go against term limits, there is no more inevitable back and forth. There could be a time where the democrats gain power, and without term limits, never give it up.

Whereas this way, they continue to make slow progress thats never interupted. They don't want to risk that.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the SC allows for a 3rd term as an option, it'll be Trump v Obama 2028.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

To quote (Barack) Obama when he was asked in '14 or '15 about hypothetically running for reelection again if it somehow became legal, "Michelle would kill [him]"

She's done with the whole political pageantry bullshit, if her absences from hollow political theatre events like the Trump inauguration are any indication.

Good for her, I say.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, the legislative policy that's being floated in the House is that a president can seek a third term only if their first two terms were non-consecutive. (Source)

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The "I'm too scared to run against Obama" clause

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He knows Obama has bigger crowd sizes.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No chance of passing thankfully.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Absolutely! Thankfully. Just tipping their hand with regards to the ridiculous bullshit they'll try use to prevent a Trump vs Obama situation.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We also said overturning Roe V Wade had no chance of passing. We also said "the president is immune to all crimes" had no chance of passing. We also said many other things they've passed had no chance.

I'm not holding my breath.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Roe vs Wade was never codified in law let alone the constitution.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a policy, it's a proposed constitutional amendment.

Well, even more, it's just performative ass-licking.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well he tried to get his last VP killed, so this is on brand for him already.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its been only a month or so. Give it some time!

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Probably gonna amend the constitution to let Elon pull a Putin. Or just not and do it anyway

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's because Trump doesn't view himself leaving office in 2028. He's president for life now.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I can see him rallying his cult to defend him if anyone, including the GOP, tries to get him to step down. He's done it before. But this time, he'll have far more power.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago

He’s president for life now.

Ecclesiastes 8:8 -- No man has power to retain the spirit, or power over the day of death.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Of course. For Trump, presidency goes to the highest bidder. Musk just outbid Vance, that's all.

[–] suckdings@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Musk can't qualify, he's not a natural-born US Citizen, and I thank my lucky stars for that. ArtII.S1.C5.1 Qualifications for the Presidency

Now, natural-born sock puppet stooges for Musk, I cannot speak to.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anything is possible when you just ignore the rules and nobody stops you.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago

If they are not bound by law, neither are we.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

For a few billion, what couldn't you sell? C'mon 6 billion and 200 horses! He'll write your name in the sky with spy satellites.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I firmly exoect Trump to sell Elon birthright citizenship. He bought his founder title at Tesla as well.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I actually don't think Trump will endorse Musk either but I could be wrong .

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Trump is still alive, why wouldn't he just run again?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dumb piece of paper called the constitution. Don't worry, we won't have to worry about it in 4 years.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But my point is it's just as unconstitutional for Musk to run, so why would he endorse Musk over himself?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK, 6 billion, 200 cattle, the finest herd with hardly any covid, name in the sky and 10 virgins from south Africa!

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welp, you heard the news JD. There's only one way for you to become president...so get to work. I mean as long as you say its an official act you can do the deed yourself and aparently its totally legal.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But he wouldn't have been president when he did it, so it wouldn't apply.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You just start doing official acts one after another

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's gotta sting, eh, vd?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alternatively: heterosectional

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

The political theater never disappoints. Trump’s coyness about Vance’s 2028 ambitions is peak performative ambiguity—classic distraction from the fact that nobody actually believes in succession plans anymore. It’s all just ego preservation wrapped in faux meritocracy.

Vance playing diplomat in Europe while simultaneously quarterbacking TikTok’s survival is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance. Saving a social media app while negotiating global conflicts? Only in a world where geopolitical strategy is outsourced to Silicon Valley’s dopamine factories.

The real punchline? TikTok thanking Trump for its resurrection. A Chinese-owned platform crediting an American populist for its survival—irony so thick you could carve it with a propaganda knife. The circus is in town, and the clowns are writing the rules.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Things have changed a lot since '14.

Like "on the one hand it's a hassle having your husband be president"

"... Buton the other hand... I want my daughters to have rights..."

[–] libertyforever@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Way too early to anoint a successor.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

So far his only smart words as a president.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Trump works for what ever makes trump look good. He will eventually fire Musk. Are there odds on musk making it the full 4 years? Remember he was also in the first administration, but got out.

No, Trumps successor will be family. Or maybe Kushner

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Just Dumb should sit on his "sofa."

load more comments
view more: next ›