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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

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All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

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we fucked up (chapo.chat)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by CARCOSA@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net
 

Hello users of hexbear, or shall i say chapo.chat, we fucked up, and i fucked up like three times making this post.

Yes, hexbear.net has expired. Yes, we were aware of this possibility. We have gradually lost contact with the access owner (prior admin) for the domain registration. We attempted to make a migration plan, but we were disarmed by the reappearance of the party in question in September 2024 and repeated assurances that they would a) transfer credentials and b) continue payments until they were able to do the former.

We accept full responsibility for this. We should have been more aggressive about this and continued our alternative despite these reassurances. This is our fuck up, and we can't offer anything besides our continued apologies and our plan of action going forward and an explanation of what happened:

Over the time of chapo.chat and hexbear.net the admins that purchased the domain, established the donation accounts, and the server accounts have left. One of the primary admins has gone inactive and returned many times, over a year ago some of the newer admins began asking the older admins to give full access to the domain, servers, and donations. These requests were not met, despite warnings of this exact event.

At the moment we do not have access to hexbear.net and there is a strong chance we will not get it back without participating in the auction, which is already over $300. Choosing to abandon the hexbear.net domain will cause federation problems and considerable technical issues which would lead to potential extended downtime.

During this downtime we would be reestablishing access to the new domain (or hexbear.net if we win the auction), access to server ownership, and donation accounts. This would be distributed among a number of admins so that we can prevent this from happening again.

Chapo.chat has the same access problem that led to the current state of hexbear.net so it is to be considered temporary.

I will do my best to answer questions

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[–] Finger@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch

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[–] PurrLure@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Well I guess this is one way to get the feds to never notice us.

But seriously, is there a lifeboat active in case this kind of thing happens again? Thankfully I'm friends with some users online but not every poster is. I remember for the old subreddit we did a discord life boat weeks in advance.

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's too many admins for a site this small, this was bound to happen eventually. Someone with the damn keys gets canceled or whatever and takes it out on the site. Oh well.

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[–] thatslife@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I got 20 dollars that says some lib wins the bid and links the domain to the Tiananmen square massacre Wikipedia page to try and dunk on us lmao

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If we end up with a new domain, does that mean we can federate with the lib instances again and go back to dunking and general joy?

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[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

this is at least 79% funny

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is what happens under socialism

everyone shares the same website and then it gets killed by the CIA

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[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone email me when the new URL is up? My email is KnilAdlez@fbi.gov

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[–] FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Posting in an historic thread

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[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I sent a message to SAV explaining the situation to see if there's anything they can do.

There has recently been a lapse in domain registration for the site hexbear.net and said domain has entered the auction phase.

This domain is currently hosting an active site with many daily users, the previous domain holder has vanished and the lapse in payment was not something the current administration team was able to rectify without their information.

Currently, the site has been redirected to chapo.chat, but losing the hexbear.net registration will pose a large security risk for users of the site as a malicious actor could MITM them.

If there is any way we could transfer domain ownership to someone affiliated with the current site's administration team, possibly paying a fine for missed payment and ending the auction it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

Eh, we had a good run (allegedly)

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

those USAID cuts messed us up /j

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Just glad no one got arrested probably.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if socialism was a website smuglord

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[–] somename@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The two wolves inside of me, of this being really funny, but also it making me sad.

I imagine a lot of people don't realize chapo.chat still works to connect, not sure if there's a good way to communicate that. Also I'm kind of curious what people are trying to win the bidding war for the domain. Likely no one good if I had to guess.

Wait, I just realized, the auction doesn't end for 9 days lol.

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[–] Goblin@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear if you name the site anything bean related I'll do nothing (threateningly)

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[–] real@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Can we throw a struggle session? It seems like good timing.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

beanis.org is available

[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

really glad I didn't namedrop the site and just referred to it obliquely at the party this weekend lmao.

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[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you (admins) decide you do want to participate in the bidding war, I am willing to front the cash as long as it doesn't get too outrageous and we could set up donations afterwards for me to recoup what I can. I realize that it's like the lowest form of charitable donation imaginable, but a lot of people (myself included) get a lot of positive mental health benefits out of this community and I'd hate to see it lose a whole bunch of members because they weren't able to figure out what happened or where we all disappeared to.

Message me if you want to discuss it further.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

we have a plan to mitigate any security issues of losing hexbear.net and have a handful of people willing to pitch-in for the hexbear.net domain. we are exploring what it would look like to change domains, and as such want to involve the user base in what the name change would be. there are a number of folks interested in helping with the cost of obtaining hexbear.net so that is undoubtedly an option as well

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Lmao, good thing I was still using the same chapo.chat bookmark from 5 years ago 😎

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5 years?!?!?!?!

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (11 children)

this is very funny. what are we going to change our name to this time?

anyway unfortunate that it happened, but it sounds like the admins aren't that much to blame.

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