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Poilievre first introduced the private member's bill, C-278, last year when he was running for the party's leadership.

It has since been picked up by Conservative MP Dean Allison, a noted anti-mandate critic who, like his leader, supported the trucker convoy that loudly opposed the government's approach to COVID-19.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 year ago

Except women. They will never guarantee bodily autonomy for women. Also gays and trans people.

In fact, when he says, "all Candians" he means, "all white, Christian straight and closeted wealthy cis men."

[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the exact anti-science, anti-community garbage that would come out of a Poilievre government, guaranteed. "We're all in this together" doesn't apply to extremely selfish conservatives who get all their news from outrage-bait like Ezra Levant or Fox News.

From climate change to vaccinations to women's rights against forced birth to the cbc, this guy has the worst possible takes on all of them and he will be an absolute disaster in Canada.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, we were never "in this together". We liked to say that a lot, but as with everything else under capitalism, the poor got fucked.

[–] Awkwardparticle@artemis.camp 5 points 1 year ago

It's not even limited to the poor, anyone who is not in the ruling class gets fucked over. A lawyer making a few hundred thousand a year is getting fucked over and thinks they are on top. People with money don't notice that they are getting fucked over because money makes problems go away.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

They're hoping that the liberal popularity collapse gives them carte blanche right now. It shouldn't. But the Liberals needs to do something about housing that isn't nothing.

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

Except women who want to have abortions can’t say that quiet part out loud.

Or transgender care oopsie no bodily autonomy there either.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck next pandemic, everyone.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NEXT pandemic? The current one is still in action. The fact that people have stopped testing for it doesn't mean it's gone. It just means governments and corporations can pretend it's gone.

And hey, while we're at it, let's bring back the classics! Every old disease that has been almost completely wiped out will be back with a vengeance now.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant more "good luck when the next one hits and we can't even get the 80~ percent vaccinated we did this time."

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's because you're an optimist compared to me. 😉

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, people don't understand Poilievre is a tool of the global RW fascist insurgency.

[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chaired by Stephen Harper.

Someone should chair him instead

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

What an utter scumbag he is (and always has been).

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

BAH GOD IT'S SOCIALISM FROM BEHIND WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Polio, Smallpox, Chickenpox/Shingles, Rubella, [...], HERE WE COME!

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A little bit of Smallpox by my side

A little bit of Polio's all I need

A little of bit of Chickenpox's what I see

A little bit of Shingles in the sun

A little bit of Rubella all night long

A little bit of Diphtheria, here I am

A little bit of you makes me your dead man (ah)

[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I thought that whole segment of the population has moved from covid vaccines to abortion to drag story time to blocking trans rights to blocking kids gender rights, so they’re several “crusades” removed from this, and yet they’re dragging this up again?

For what? Points with people in the slow lane? People studying up for their conservatism fascist turn SATs? Or just to dredge some more outrage for his new look party of “no new ideas, just point the finger and be obnoxious”?

It’s looking a lot like the latter. I hope people see through it, or get tired of it, but we all know we don’t vote in parties in Canada, we just vote them out.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And yet somehow we never vote them out by voting for the party out of the top three that would do the most to improve people's lives. We just bounce back and forth between the options we know to be bad.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Pierre being a shittier more out of date version of the American right wing is pretty on brand for him. People say he's a President's Choice brand Trump, but that's unfair, he's more of a Great Value brand DeSantis really.

[–] Awkwardparticle@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago

Fuck, that is a good one.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I think vaccine mandates remain a sore spot for many in the electorate. I try to go out of my bubble and keep conservative or right-leaning friends/acquaintances, and it's surprising how often this still comes up.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I hope your "sore spot" friends die of horrible diseases that are easily prevented, then, and that you and yours are kept safe from their ignorant incompetence.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but we all know we don’t vote in parties in Canada, we just vote them out

I have wished for a long time that the parties would be disbanded (as they currently exist), so only their policy platforms would remain. I feel like only then would they cut the BS and end up more like think tanks that candidates are allowed to join and work with on policy ideas ONLY (i.e. NO campaign or marketing assistance; just publicly verifiable confirmation if candidate X signed off on policy Y).

Then candidates could go on the record saying if they align with party A's economic platform on issue 1 and party B's social platform on issue 2 (and be held to account), rather than coasting on vague party affiliations while answering as little as possible. There would also be actual room for debate because they couldn't be whipped, and if they change their mind on an issue they'd be obligated to explain the reasoning.

I know this will never happen though because for generations, both Grits and Tories have found success by misleading voters, each in their usual way.

[–] OkayHereWeGo@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre rose in the House of Commons Tuesday to urge other MPs to adopt legislation that would prohibit Ottawa from again imposing COVID-19 vaccine mandates on federal workers and the travelling public.

It has since been picked up by Conservative MP Dean Allison, a noted anti-mandate critic who, like his leader, supported the trucker convoy that loudly opposed the government's approach to COVID-19.

Poilievre said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "maliciously divided" and attacked Canadians who shunned the COVID-19 vaccine by imposing an "unreasonable" policy that forced some people to get the shot or face consequences like job losses or additional hurdles at the border.

When the vaccination requirement for federal public servants was lifted in June 2022, employees who had been placed on leave without pay had a chance to return to their regular work duties.

While agreeing with the Conservatives' claim that Trudeau and the Liberals "politicized" Canada's pandemic response, Davies said passing this legislation could tie the hands of the government if COVID-19 returns as a pressing public health threat.

But Tam also said a month later that it was time to re-examine the policy because the science showed the primary series of the COVID-19 vaccine — the first two doses — offer very little protection against an Omicron infection, which was by then the dominant strain.


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